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    Can a razor be honed start to finish using only pastes?? and if so what type of pastes would you use to set a bevel. A buddy of mine on a different forum claims a razor can be honed without a hone? just pastes

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    I know dovo makes several pastes. Red, black and green. Also a yellow that serves as a leather conditioner. Of course diamond sprays work too
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    They all work to a point but I Doubt you could set a bevel with paste alone.
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    You may be rights and I agree with you but there are guys that say you can do it.

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    Im sure it can be done. There are pastes in all micron sizes. I think that the flexibility of the substrate would have a lot to do with the finished edge though. A yielding surface may not be the best to use although Im only guessing.

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    yea I've seen claims on that other forum where guys say you can set a bevel with paste. The question is why would you want to do that even if you could? Kind of like taking a bike ride across the us and using a single speed bike instead of one with multi gears.
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    I'm no honer but the glaring question for me is. Why would you:-S ??? Can't see the point when fantastic hones and dmt's are available. And to be honest the price isn't all that prohibitive.
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    I've set bevels with pastes on some molding hand planes. Never on a regular knife or razor though. It can be done, but it is time consuming. You embed the pastes into heavy leather and secure the leather into a sturdy board. Then you do a back hone motion until you get a wire edge. Breadknife it to break the wire edge and take a few more strops to clean up the break. Then move to the next smaller paste. I usually start with coarse automotive valve grinding paste, move through medium, fine, and extra fine valve paste. After that I don't make a wire edge anymore and then move to the red rouge, CrOx, and finish with diamond sprays.

    It takes me about an hour to set a bevel and sharpen a plane iron with pastes. It only takes about 15 minutes to sharpen one with the proper profile stones.

    I'm sure it could be done with a razor (better tape that spine), but a stone is faster and easier.
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    If you have the proper tools for a job, they should be used. I could walk to work, and it is not really that far, but I have this thing called a car so I use it. I would be concerned about building a convex profile into the bevel with pastes. Using pastes eventually does have that effect, but I wouldn't start an edge that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportcopper View Post
    Can a razor be honed start to finish using only pastes?? and if so what type of pastes would you use to set a bevel. A buddy of mine on a different forum claims a razor can be honed without a hone? just pastes
    It can be sharpened without a hone, but it cannot be honed without a hone,,,
    Last edited by Hirlau; 06-26-2014 at 02:38 AM.
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