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    Will definitely be trying this method. Thanks Tim.
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    Thank you for the information. i enjoy the edge you put on my 2H2H very much. It is one of my bench marks.
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    Excellent post, Tim.

    Only thing I would like to see is a reference mark on the blade so I can feel comfortable that I am comparing the same section of bevel each time, or a purpose made jig that holds the razor in exactly the same place and plane. A small point, though.

    I'm still not convinced that the degree of magnification or all the irregularities it reveals are worth much other than for illustrative purposes. The smoothest skin, human hair, sweat glands, etc, look like a blasted and torn lunar landscape at those sort of magnifications - no one complains of a sweet womans touch on his face though, no matter how ragged the surface of her fingertips appears under magnification.

    Our senses have limits, as a simple two pin test easily reveals. Sensitive parts can feel the pinpricks as separate entities, parts like the finger tips and tongue, while less sensitive parts feel the double pricking as one, eg the skin on the back.

    we readily talk about and accept extremes, even if those extremes are in reality incomprehensible to us in real, practical terms. We can talk glibly about infinity, the concept of time, the workings of the human psyche, but those things and many others can only be viewed in a theoretical way.

    As you say, there are more ways than one to skin a cat, even though the end result is the same, pelt in one hand, embarrassed nude cat in the other. I guess what we are both saying is 'how you get there does not matter' though to be pedantic one has to factor everything in as a singular example, so what applies to one persons skin with a certain razor steel and a particular way of honing will not apply, at least in equal measure, to another person.

    Which kind of brings me back to where I started...

    Regards - and thanks again,
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    Last edited by Neil Miller; 07-15-2014 at 12:45 PM. Reason: spelling - damn android tablet...!

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    Excellent post. I've mistakenly done something like this before with superb results. I'm gonna have to give it a try with your direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Miller View Post
    Excellent post, Tim.

    only thing I would like to see is a reference mark on the blade so I can feel comfortable that I am comparing the same section of bevel each time, or a purpose made jid that holds the razor in exactly the same place and plane. A small polint, though.

    I'm still not convinced that the degree of magnification or all the irregularities it reveals are worth much other than for illustrative purposes. The smoothest skin, human hair, sweat glands, etc, look like a blasted and torn lunar landscape at those sort of magnifications - no one complains of a sweet womans touch on his face though, no matter how ragged the surface of her fingertips appears under magnification.

    Our senses have limits, as a simple two pin test easily reveals. Sensitive parts can feel the pinpricks as separate entities, parts like the finger tips and tongue, while less se sitive parts feel the double pricking as one, eg the skin on the back.

    we readily talk about and accept extremes, even if those extremes are in reality incomprehensible to us in real, practical terms. We can talk glibly about infinity, the concept of time, the workings of the human psyche, but those things and many others can only be viewed in a theoretical way.

    As you say, there are more ways than one to skin a cat, even though the end result is the same, pelt in one hand, embarassed nude cat in tbe other. I guess what we are both saying is 'how you get there does not matter' though to be pedantic one has to factor everything in as a singular example, so what applies to one persons skin with a certain razor steel and a particular way of honing will not apply, at least in equal measure, to another person.

    Which kind of brings me back to where I started...

    Regards - and thanks again,
    Neil.
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    I still don't get all of this. I understand why everyone goes to such great lengths but I just see it as being a little extreme. The way I learned to sharpen from my Grandfather never involved high magnification OR any kind of magnification OR tape for that matter and we still managed to get excellent edges with smooth shaves. But, if all of this works for your then great it just seems like "make work" to me.
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    I agree!

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitstik View Post
    I still don't get all of this. I understand why everyone goes to such great lengths but I just see it as being a little extreme. The way I learned to sharpen from my Grandfather never involved high magnification OR any kind of magnification OR tape for that matter and we still managed to get excellent edges with smooth shaves. But, if all of this works for your then great it just seems like "make work" to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guitstik View Post
    I still don't get all of this. I understand why everyone goes to such great lengths but I just see it as being a little extreme. The way I learned to sharpen from my Grandfather never involved high magnification OR any kind of magnification OR tape for that matter and we still managed to get excellent edges with smooth shaves. But, if all of this works for your then great it just seems like "make work" to me.
    Now on the basis that both Tim and Neil have 'liked' this post - surely the definitive answer would be for you to try one of Tim's edges against one of Neils and decide whether you can feel any difference.

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    A very nice polish; thanks for again explaining your honing method. I like to think of it as a "micro micro-bevel." (Nano bevel? ) Not unlike finishing on a slack or pliable strop. Or stropping with the razor's spine slightly raised...
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    Quote Originally Posted by UKRob View Post
    Now on the basis that both Tim and Neil have 'liked' this post - surely the definitive answer would be for you to try one of Tim's edges against one of Neils and decide whether you can feel any difference.
    I do need to send a few razors off to be honed by the "experts" just to compare my honing skills against. Right now I just can't justify the expense it would take considering the fact I have to put out $1000.00 to have my wife's winshield replaced. Big stone + fragile glass = lightened bank account. When it rains it pours.
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