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04-06-2007, 10:24 PM #1
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Thanked: 1eBay Bidding War for a useless rock or what???
I noticed an interesting item on eBay that had a real serious bidding war going on...
for something called:
Straight Razor Sharpening Stone Gator Rock Hone Box
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=330104577546
It looked like a piece of that myhtical naturally formed Belgian Yellow & Blue Coticule. The bidding war ended at US $110.99. I guess if that was the "real McCoy, then it was an ok price... too pricey for my blood, but maybe for one of the REAL HoneMeisters a worthwhile investment...
Is that what it was?... or was that just another "newbie" bidding war for a piece of $5.00 rock???
I'd like to hear from some of the HoneMeisters... was that the real deal?
Tony
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04-07-2007, 02:30 AM #2
I don't think from a users prospective its anything special. From a collectors prospective its unusual and rare and is probably considered a collectable item so thats why the bidding activity. Personally I wouldn't give $5.00 for it but then again I don't collect honing stones. Now if it had badger hair growing out of it, then it would be a different story!
No matter how many men you kill you can't kill your successor-Emperor Nero
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04-07-2007, 02:49 AM #3
I followed that one too. Nice looking and very thich natural but that staining on the yellow side worries me.
TonyThe Heirloom Razor Strop Company / The Well Shaved Gentleman
https://heirloomrazorstrop.com/
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04-07-2007, 05:52 AM #4
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Thanked: 17Tony, that's exactly what I thought about it. Probably a Natural Belgian but with a queationable light colored side, the side of most interest for honing razors.
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04-07-2007, 11:25 AM #5
It's one of those cases where the outcome is like the roll of a dice.
If the dirt is only on the surface and not soaked into the stone, it will clean up nicely and it could be a steal for that price.
But if the dirt and stains are through and through, you paid 110$ for something that is only useful as a small 0.5$ brick.
And that is of course assuming that there are no hidden cracks hidden underneath the dirt.Til shade is gone, til water is gone, Into the shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath.
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04-07-2007, 02:07 PM #6
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Thanked: 108If you look closely you'll see there's a non-natural (i.e. dead-straight and man-made) seam going down the middle, to the left of the natural seam on the bottom half of the stone. The natural seam then joins it about half-way up.
I think the right half is a belgian natural, unusual in that it's mostly yellow, and it's bonded to a piece of slate (the left half). Another way of putting it is that it's a regular old slate-bonded coticule, only the coticule's got a wedgey bit of blue in one corner.Last edited by dylandog; 04-07-2007 at 02:11 PM.
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04-07-2007, 03:25 PM #7
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Thanked: 1www.theperfectedge.com is selling "NEW" coticule for Approx. $7.30 per square inch...
So, to compare, IF I were able to buy this block of coticule brand new from www.theperfectedge.com it would cost me $132.49.
That's assuming that the black stain is removeable and the stone is salavageable AND REALLY is Belgian coticule...
At $110.00, used and pretty beat up that really is too much of a risk, I'd rather buy New....
If it had auctioned out at $30, or even $75, it would have been an ok deal...but still a gamble....Last edited by tgparker; 04-07-2007 at 03:27 PM.
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04-07-2007, 03:46 PM #8
At eBay prices buy new I think.
Used stones from members tend to be fair deals too.
TonyThe Heirloom Razor Strop Company / The Well Shaved Gentleman
https://heirloomrazorstrop.com/
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04-07-2007, 11:49 PM #9
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Thanked: 1Here's What I got on eBay for US $76.00
For a 2-7/16" x 5-7/8" x 1" "BELGIAN SHARPENING STONE COTICULE EXCELLENT CONDITION"
I guess If I had bought Slate backed coticule of the same size from www.theperfectedge.com, it would have cost me Approx. $100.0, so perhaps $76.00 wasn't so bad....
Here's the BIG question, I'm not so sure that the bottom material in my stone is Slate...
The top material is a warm creamy yellow tan color, and the lower material is a purple, blue, mauve material. They are in fact two separate pieces of stone that have been glued together to form one stone. When I lapped the stone both materials are able to create an abrazive slurry.
The "yellow" material creates a creamy tan golden slurry, and the purple/blue/mauve material creates a blue/purple/mauve slurry. The purple material seems more abrasive that the "yellow".
Is the bottom purple material really just Slate, or could I have a stone that has both Belgian yellow and belgian blue/purple material....???
Here's the real joke...today I was digging around a local junk store near where I live and I found it's twin in a box of beat up old hones and stones.... It was EXACTKLY the same size and configuration.
The "yellow" part was the same but the blue/purple/ part had some purple/mauve in it but was more blue... I bought it for less than 1/20th what I paid for the eBay special...
Is it the "Real McCoy"? Do any of you HoneMeisters have a similar stone?
http://i16.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/95/58/da6d_1.JPG
http://i11.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/95/58/ddcc_1.JPG
Last edited by tgparker; 04-08-2007 at 12:21 AM.
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04-08-2007, 12:25 AM #10
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Thanked: 2209The "purple, blue, mauve" is the coarse natural Belgian stone of approx 4k grit. This is how they used to be made. I have several of them.
Randolph Tuttle, a SRP Mentor for residents of Minnesota & western Wisconsin