Thread: Norton 4k after Chosera 1K ?

Good day to you all. Yesterday i got my chosera stone, brcause i was disappointed by my Norton 1000 grit stone - for me it just didnt work. I am absolutely amazed by the performance of Naniwa Chosera 1000 - it is veery fast and smooth also, my razor could pass HHT after it . But i have one problem. When i normally take razor to Norton 4K, it really passes HHT nicely. For example when i am just rehoning or so. But since i tested Chosera yesterday and today, one problem came up. When i can get HHT at 1K Chosera, i start to work on 4 K Norton and i just feel the edge degrades. It shaves armhair worse and also no HHT, just sometimes in some spots on the blade. Maybe this particular razor doesnt like Norton 4K, but the 4K feels also a lot more gritty than chosera - my Norton 4K is lapped well and before i was getting good results. Now the razor barely passed the HHT after finisher and it is not sharpened well. I dont know what might be the case but i feel like the edge degrades at 4K Norton. Any ideas what this might be? I will try on more razors later, but this really confuses me. I tried to set bevel on this on chosera and move to 4K at least 4 times and still the same.
Thanks a lot.
Filiip

I'm sure the experts will chime in here but I'm thinking that too much pressure may be your problem?


Mike

I really was light on it ... 1 K the razor passes HHT, after only about 10 strokes on 4 k with only the weight of the blade, razor stops passing HHT and it seems to shave hair worse. I tried also circles and a lot of other things on 4 K, but doesnt seem to help. As i say, i didnt have this problem before- i was able to pop hairs easily after 4K

I would not worry about it yet. The 1k is the bevel setter and the 4k is an intermediate hone for sharpening. Obviously you are not going to stop at 4k so go ahead and go up your progression whatever it is.

I cannot cut any of my hair until after I strop so I don't use any hair as an intermediate honing assessment. I used to think that was because I sucked at honing. Eventually I discovered that it was just the nature of my hair.

In your case, it is not that uncommon for hair cutting to be lost at an intermediate grit. You may be popping hairs after the 1k not because the blade is particularly sharp but instead because you have a sawtooth effect on the edge that is catching and then popping the hairs. With refinement of the edge with the 4k the teeth may be reduced (as they should be) to an extent that they no longer catch the hair. What you are perceiving as a regression in the sharpness is likely to be the opposite, so just keep on honing with whatever normally follows your 4k.

Thank you ... I was just disappointed because other honings worked like i said with positive HHT all the way from 4000 and now not, so i wanted to know if it has to do something with Naniwa. The finished edge didnt seem very sharp so thats what i didmt like the most.
Thank you a lot.

The hht is a very subjective test .. I wouldn't go crazy worrying about the hht. The norton 4 k is a great stone.. The true test in a nice edge is the shave test.. I really don't test my hht anymore but when I do I do it after stropping..

Originally Posted by Utopian

You may be popping hairs after the 1k not because the blade is particularly sharp but instead because you have a sawtooth effect on the edge that is catching and then popping the hairs.

Exactly,....not what I would want to shave with even though it pops hairs.