Thread: Mystery Bevel

Originally Posted by WW243

The guy that did the regrind filled in the bug bites on the scales and blacked them....no idea how....blacker than I did with neatsfoot oil. I asked him to keep the bullseye washers....he said he could not save the washers. So I got stepped washers. The I asked the second guy for stepped solid washers and without saying a word to me until the razor was delivered....he also used stacked washers and said he did not use the solid washers.He kept the scales or I would send them to you....in fact, I'll send you the razor if you have any use for it because right now it burns a hole in my eyes and gives me nightmares.

Originally Posted by Utopian

That is unfortunate because it is still a very good razor. A lot of those big old W&Bs have minor flaws in them. It gives them character.

If it really does bother you as it is, you could sell it for a very good start on a pristine new razor.

What Utopian said really does ring true. Your strive for perfection while noble in theory, its unobtainable. Remember your dealing with objects that are 100 to 150 years old. They are made of steel, steel corrodes, then there's the fact that people rub them from time to time with abrasive stones, and yes some rub them wrong, unevenly or overly heavy handedly. During WWII there were huge metal recycling drives to get all types of metals for the war effort. If it wasn't nailed down it was put in the furnace. . Do you see where I'm going with this Bill????? Perfection??? Its a bloody miracle that these objects are still on the planet let alone N.O.S. And if there is still the farm fresh N.O.S. F.B.U.'s out there there going to a home that has far deeper pockets then your willing to reach into.
Embrace the imperfections in life Bill.
Kindest regards,
Darl

It does in fact bother me but I do not own any new razors, I have no interest in them. My razor 'collection' is 10 razors and of those I only really have 5 in rotation.

Originally Posted by Utopian

That is unfortunate because it is still a very good razor. A lot of those big old W&Bs have minor flaws in them. It gives them character.

If it really does bother you as it is, you could sell it for a very good start on a pristine new razor.

Far from perfect but one of my favorite razors:
But I'll accept your imperfect view of me Darl even though I know I am faultless.

Originally Posted by WW243

But I'll accept your imperfect view of me Darl even though I know I am faultless.

.......HAR........

Originally Posted by WW243

Far from perfect but one of my favorite razors:
But I'll accept your imperfect view of me Darl even though I know I am faultless.

That razor IS perfect, Bill! So was your W&B until you began paying folks to cobb it up.
Listen to Darry! (Oh...Did I just say that?) Listen to ME!

I am guessing the first hone had more layers of tape on the spine. If you regrind the top of the bevel to make it concave again, put a finish on it, then add enough tape to keep the bevel low it will come out small and straight. Essentially your changing the angle enough to keep the top of the bevel down where the blade thickness is even from previous honing. Less tape puts the bevel back up to a height where the blade thickness is uneven in the concave area.
The regrind cleaned up the look but it does not add metal back to fix the hone wear. The tape adds the thickness back to the spine.
Hope the picture in my head comes out for you to understand what I think happened here. :<0)

Originally Posted by 10Pups

I am guessing the first hone had more layers of tape on the spine. If you regrind the top of the bevel to make it concave again, put a finish on it, then add enough tape to keep the bevel low it will come out small and straight. Essentially your changing the angle enough to keep the top of the bevel down where the blade thickness is even from previous honing. Less tape puts the bevel back up to a height where the blade thickness is uneven in the concave area.
The regrind cleaned up the look but it does not add metal back to fix the hone wear. The tape adds the thickness back to the spine.
Hope the picture in my head comes out for you to understand what I think happened here. :<0)

Yes, I can just see that!

10Pups, let me see if I got this right: if you regrind the tape on the first hone the bevel will fall down the face of the blade in a concave fashion and some of the metal will come back to the spine and change the angle on the dangle. If you continue to tape the bevel and work up the blade, a convex uneven carbon chain will form and a Big Bang will occur in your wallet, and rather than a beautiful 19th century shaving instrument you will be left holding a hyperbolic paraboloid which at this point will only be good for trimming nose hairs?

Originally Posted by 10Pups

I am guessing the first hone had more layers of tape on the spine. If you regrind the top of the bevel to make it concave again, put a finish on it, then add enough tape to keep the bevel low it will come out small and straight. Essentially your changing the angle enough to keep the top of the bevel down where the blade thickness is even from previous honing. Less tape puts the bevel back up to a height where the blade thickness is uneven in the concave area.
The regrind cleaned up the look but it does not add metal back to fix the hone wear. The tape adds the thickness back to the spine.
Hope the picture in my head comes out for you to understand what I think happened here. :<0)

Originally Posted by WW243

10Pups, let me see if I got this right: if you regrind the tape on the first hone the bevel will fall down the face of the blade in a concave fashion and some of the metal will come back to the spine and change the angle on the dangle. If you continue to tape the bevel and work up the blade, a convex uneven carbon chain will form and a Big Bang will occur in your wallet, and rather than a beautiful 19th century shaving instrument you will be left holding a hyperbolic paraboloid which at this point will only be good for trimming nose hairs?

By Jove! I think he's got it!

Honestly Tom I had to cheat a little by using a slide rule and a Hadron Collider to figure out what Pups was saying.

Originally Posted by sharptonn

By Jove! I think he's got it!