Euclid, your thread on 12k chip removal/bevel set in "advanced honing techniques" is what helped me decide to go with a 12k, instead of a 4k/8k combo.

In that thread, you mention & explain Alex Gilmore’s method of honing quite well. After watching a couple of his vids, & re-reading your thread, I'm a bit more comfortable with the idea breadknifing the chip out. I agree with stopping just short of completely removing the chip before bevel set.

Gonna try to duplicate what you did in that thread, though I'm using the M5 ceramic rather than the glass series.

I also noticed that Alex's stroke, in the videos I watched, is like what I was trying to describe for my own stroke. Though, I had was still doing both toward & away strokes. I was considering only toward me strokes, flipping the razor from hand to hand, to keep my eye on the edge at all times... because I'm meticulous like that!

"If it's worth doing once, it's worth doing right the first time." -My Father.