Thread: Faux Frameback

Originally Posted by Matheus

Hmmmm... good to know. I didn't learned this way first time.
I tought these last pictured razors were both framebacks... a rattler (top one), and an integral frame (bottom), and faux framebacks as one piece bladed ones hollowed to the point to get a sharp transition between the spine and the leaf of the blade, as this: http://straightrazorpalace.com/custo...ll-custom.html

Rattler grinds are as you posted a link to, such as this;


They are often referred to a 'faux framebacks', erroneously, IMO.
Guys just like to say 'faux', I suppose. It rolls off the tongue and makes one feel quite continental, I suppose!

Anyway, Dave's blade seems nowhere near this in the spine/grind dept.
Also, many blades were made proclaiming 'Rattler' across the blade which are nowhere close to being a rattler grind.

so this is a Rattler then also

Originally Posted by Substance

so this is a Rattler then also

I would say so

Yes! My position is that 'faux frameback' has been too liberally applied. Proper terms should be used to relate to a razor so there is no confusion. In the picture on post #9, the bottom blade has a frame which constitutes the tang and spine (or back). the blade is another piece. Hence 'Frameback'.
The top razor is one-piece in the blade and tang department with a 'false' spine slipped on top. Hence 'Faux frameback'

A two piece affair should be the only ones which use the 'frameback' moniker, faux or not.

The rattler grind is unique to it'self. So how about the 'half-rattlers'?

yes this is my understanding of a rattler with the larger lancet type spine

Hey Tom - what constitutes a "half-Rattler", what grind are the pics in post#14?

edit: I see the razors below, why "half" Rattler?

Originally Posted by Substance

yes this is my understanding of a rattler with the larger lancet type spine

Indeed, I feel the Mappin Lancet falls into the Half-Rattler category as well.

Originally Posted by Phrank

Hey Tom - what constitutes a "half-Rattler", what grind are the pics in post#14?

Half rattlers are half heavy near wedges, half thin, concave grinds. The ones in post 14 are representative of half-rattlers.

The OP razor, like many have already mentioned is a Shoulderless grind, meaning it has no stabilizer some razors have a single stabilizer, some have a double like on the image below.

I said Faux!