Thread: Edge collapsing halfway through shave?

“I have a hard time imagining how an incomplete bevel set can lead to a "collapsing edge."

The edge is not collapsing, it was never completely sharp and the user was shaving with the part that was, then they think it stopped shaving when they shave with the part that never was.

This is the result of the Pro Forma, (X amount of laps) honing. You have to hone as long as it takes, to achieve the results you are after.

The OP probably spent much more time on the GD, (because of its reputation), that he is comparing to. It would be interesting to see the edge of the GD.

Originally Posted by Euclid440

“I have a hard time imagining how an incomplete bevel set can lead to a "collapsing edge."

The edge is not collapsing, it was never completely sharp

I am aware of that, and that is exactly why I said that I have a hard time imagining how an incomplete bevel set can lead to a "collapsing edge."

You can edit your posts except for the title, just as an FYI....so you could have corrected your "head" to edge.

Originally Posted by yotebuster1200

Edge.... one of those days.

Originally Posted by yotebuster1200

That was supposed to say head collapsing but I don't know how to change it

Fixed

ps I think it is in the bevel also

Originally Posted by Euclid440

Looking at the sides will not tell you if the bevels are meeting, it will tell you if you are honing to the edge, but not meeting. But if you are not honing to the edge, the bevels will never meet.

Look straight down on the edge, to see if they are meeting. They must meet at 1k, then refine and not chip or collapsing on each stone. The goal is to make the edge straighter with each stone in the progression.

And that lack of "straightness" can be seen from the side, even when setting the bevels.

Well I tried to take some.pictures through my loop but I didn't get very good pictures. I did look closely at the edge and from everything I saw the bevels meet.

With my schedule I won't have time to mess with it until wednesday. After I mess with it i will report back.

Originally Posted by Euclid440

Looking at the sides will not tell you if the bevels are meeting, it will tell you if you are honing to the edge, but not meeting. But if you are not honing to the edge, the bevels will never meet.

Look straight down on the edge, to see if they are meeting. They must meet at 1k, then refine and not chip or collapsing on each stone. The goal is to make the edge straighter with each stone in the progression.

This thread shows what the edge should look like, post 41.

I can tell you that this one piece of info saved me a LOT of frustration in my early learning process! I would look at the bevel from the side and it would be a thing of beauty but then the shave would be very mediocre.
Back to the hones and the same thing! I went thru this procedure over and over, then I ran across this tidbit and looked at the edge straight down in a bright light and lo and behold, shiny spots all up and down the blade edge. Started checking the edge like this on ALL my razors and my honing improved tremendously and my shaves are awesome!
Thanks so much for this awesome tip @Euclid440