My hone of the day includes two razors, sorry no pics. First is my WM Bingham and the second my W&B wedge. Both are bigger blades than I am used to honing. Anyway the bingham took a better edge than the first time not sure if my stroke has improved or pressure but anyway test shave in a day or so and the W&B.... I tried to hone this thing about 3 times now and I honestly feel like I have it. I started with no tape the first time, huge bevel and no luck after quite some time. Second attempt was 2 pieces of tape things went better bevel never actually set tugs when test shaved. This time (3rd) 3 layers of tape bevel set quick on 15 micron lapping film on a piece of glass, then 4k , 8K Norton now to strop and test shave with this as well. This time got a nice even small bevel and as mentioned was achieved fairly fast. Feeling pretty good for amateur status.