With a 1000, 3000. Aloxite barber hone, and the German Escher you should be getting a good shave. I recommend buying a bunch of things you don't need because the one with the most toys wins! lol But I don't think your going to find some magic out there in the Norton. Curiosity has made me purchase different things just to see. It wasn't a waste of money they all work well, but so did the hones I already had.