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03-07-2016, 06:14 AM #1
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Thanked: 104Finshing hones, sharp or for comfort?
Good day gentlemen,
Having become accustomed to finishing my razors with the Suehiro Gokumyo 20K, I'm just wondering about members view of what is the ideal finished condition of our razors. My reason for raising this is after a year of the Suehiro, I acquired a coticule select grade 8 x 3 as I have mentioned on this forum before. Using the coticule as a finishing hone is my opinion of how this stone is ideally suited. We've heard this one stone hone bits, but now after using the coticule to finish after either the 8k Naniwa Superstone or the Suehiro 10k (Which is probably like a 15k), I conclude that 'my' coticule is a slow, hard stone, as finishers need to be. I find I have put plenty of strokes 100 + into an 8k edge with the coticule leaving me with a shave tested comfortable shave. After a week or so of using coticule edges only (On 3 razors) good shaves were had. Well this morning I used a Suehiro 20k edge 13/16 Dorko in top condition, a dozen strokes on a CROX strop, leather and away I went. Now confidence in shaving can lead to slip ups. Well I gave myself a nick with what was a bloody sharp razor. My point is that either I'm just a dill who slipped or I am used to more 'forgiving' edges, from the coticule. Just a few views fellas. PS I adjusted the angle to my face real quick!
Regards Bob
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03-07-2016, 07:24 AM #2
I aim for sharp and comfortable
But some steels (a couple of Germans so far) prefer a somewhat lesser edge to maintain comfort and don't come of the Chrox or Ferrox to well but are nice after some extra leather slaps to tame them.
Look forward to seeing others responses here as I don't have any Coti or Gok 20 edges but the Minor HAD in me keeps looking at them both then I look at the prices on both and it fades quickly LOLSaved,
to shave another day.
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03-07-2016, 12:01 PM #3
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Thanked: 55I lean towards coti. Find them much more forgiving on sensitive skin. Will happily admit they're not as sharp as some synthetics but with good prep and careful shaving I get just as clean a shave with less irritation. I even prefer coti finish to slate or thuringian.
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03-07-2016, 12:46 PM #4
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Thanked: 3228I have only really used a Naniwa progression to 12K and then about 10 strokes on a hanging strop pasted with Crox. If I get it all right the result is a blade that is sharp enough and comfortable on the face. It suits me just fine and allows me to do a 4 pass shave daily.
BobLife is a terminal illness in the end
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03-07-2016, 02:04 PM #5
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Thanked: 4830I must admit that I have shaved with very few synthetic edges. For the most part I found them to be prickly. I have however used a razor finished by a member here on the 20K that was a very nice edge indeed. Although I am a set of naturals for my finishing, I have to say there is at least one nice synthetic edge out there.
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03-07-2016, 02:12 PM #6
I think with something like the Suehiro 20k it is a combination of sharp and smooth, but as Sham told me years ago, you have to know when to stop. If you go too far it is too much of a good thing.
I've often said that I believe the old barbers in North Jersey used coticules to finish because the edges are so forgiving. None of us want to cut ourselves shaving, how much less does a pro barber want to nick a customer.
The thing with coticules versus a 20k, or the like, is consistency. With the synthetic they are all alike and you know what to expect. With the natural it is the 'box of chocolates'. Sometimes it is delicious, and other rimes it is another carmel or coconut.Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.