Thread: NOS ????

Anyone care to comment before I do?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Thuringian-strai...QQcmdZViewItem

Randy, sorry but I don't get it. What about this listing requires a comment?

My guess is that the Zwilling Friodurs are the only razors that respond to honing on this stone. I feel bad for anyone honing on a stone that is incorrect for their particular razor.

Randy, now you have to publish a list razors and the correct stone to hone them on.

I don't have one of these hones, but have heard from other members that Friodurs respond particularly well to this type of stone. Fortunately for me and my collection of Friodurs, they also respond well to garden-variety Shaptons (and some not-so-garden-variety Shaptons :-)

I suspect Randy is unhappy with the new old stock reference!?

Originally Posted by JMS

I suspect Randy is unhappy with the new old stock reference!?

I think the listing explains it well and my "vintage" stone fall in the same catagory. The Hunsruecks I sold were new,...freshly quarried, freshly sawn. I also have vintage Thuringens in boxes. Some of these were already in older boxes and cut many years ago, other were more recently sawn from blocks quarried many years ago...........maybe from the same blocks as the Muller stones in question but supoosedly from a different source. I have one of these same stones on the way from Kees to compare against mine to see if that is true.

We may all differ slightly on "NOS" but I think the intent here was that these are not supposed to be newly quarried stones, but those from the same deposit and strata quarried in the heyday of Thuringen/Escher production. As with the Belgian Coticules, "new" vs. "old" may have some bearing on quality (not saying this is so, just pointing out the theory) to some as it implies they came from different veins or strata, so the listing is pointing out these were old.

Anything beyond this would just be speculation so maybe Kees will wander by and lay concerns to rest. I see no issue here but maybe I'm missing something.

Tony

Ditto Tony, ditto. The term NOS is being properly used here.

I wasn't saying I had a problem with Kees use of NOS, But the title of Randys thread, after all, is "NOS????"!

JMS,
It's the likely beef though I suppose. Maybe a purist definition of NOS would have the stones being quarried, cut and boxed way back when and simply be old store stock. You only have so many words in an eBay title and I'd throw in any reasonably accurate term to catch the buyer's eye as long as it was explained in detail in the body of the text as was here. Simply saying NOS with no further explanation though would possibly mislead. The point though being these are not currently quarried (we are told).

If we were dealing with any of the re-handled Friodurs on eBay I would not object to NOS being in the title as long as the description spelled out re-ground and/or re-handled or whatever was the true case.

In many cases (I know in mine anyway) we are relying on info given by our suppliers, possibly not speaking the same language and we try to give our best interpretaion to our own customers. It took me a month of questions to my supplier, sparked by the input from a German based member here to actually sort out the true source of my Hunsruecks. Without that I would have been selling them mis-labled and been none the wiser.

Tony

Randy,

If you have any problems with my listing let me know, be it via PM or via the forums.

The description of the stone states quite clearly that the blocks were quarried before WW II, the hones cut recently. This is the info from Mueller, the firm that markets the stones.

There's nothing I am trying to hide.