Thread: Sharpness of razor compared to Feather disposable blades

Send you razor to Lynn at SRD or Phil at classic edge or someone here on the forum. When you get it back you will know what you are trying to achieve when your honing.

Then go get some clunker vintage razors to learn in and try to duplicate their edge. You will get there. Both shaving and honing take time to learn.

Are you using magnification? What tests do you perform other than shaving?

Do lots of research here. Read posts regarding honing, stropping, shaving, everything you can. Lots of good info and opinions wade through. If a member is close, face to face help in all of those would make improvements faster.

And lastly don't compare a DE or SE blade to a straight. The DE is a machine made blade with coatings which is what really gives it the shaving ability. After a few shaves with the DE you throw it away. A straight will give you shave after shave and even then only require a touch up honing.

In evaluating the straight shave the question is does it give you a clean, close and comfortable shave with the blade effortlessly gliding down you face.If the answer to any of those is no then it needs to be honed.

Thank you for your answer. And the conclusion is that the dovo is not giving me as effortless shave as the disposable blades.
I used the described technique of piramid honing.
I payed attention to technical details, and did everything as precise as possible.
Where do I go from here?
What do I change in my honing to achieve smooth shave?

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Originally Posted by Lucasso

Thank you for your answer. And the conclusion is that the dovo is not giving me as effortless shave as the disposable blades.
I used the described technique of piramid honing.
I payed attention to technical details, and did everything as precise as possible.
Where do I go from here?
What do I change in my honing to achieve smooth shave?

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I have read this thread through and have some questions for you.

Is this Dovo the first straight razor that you have shaved with? If it is then your shaving technique may not be very good yet.

Did the place where yo bought the Dovo from hone it before sending it out or was it supplied as it came from the factory? If it has the edge the factory put on it there is a possibility that it was not quite good enough.

Have you honed a straight razor before? If you have not chances are good that you did not get it right. Very few people get a really good edge when they first learn how to hone. It really does not matter how many vids you watch it really is a matter of time and lots of practice to learn the art of honing.

Bob

If you were using a shavette and now trying to use a straight that makes quite a bit of difference in technique. Alot closer angle. BobH has good points as well.

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Hi guys.
Thank you for your replay.
I totally agree with you.
The edge I hot on my razor is not good enough.
It is a factory new blade.
And it was not as sharp as the disposable blades.
Therefore I was trying to hone it, so it becomes as good as the disposable one.
I'm just not getting it.
What should I do?
I payed attention to technical details, and done everything as on instruction video of 4/8k stone piramid honing technique.
With regards to my shaving.
I'm not very skilfully at all, but i feel huge difference between straight feather razor and dovo. They both straight cut throat razor.
I'm using very similar technique.
The dovo pulls, and require quite a lot of force to share against the growth, and feather does not.
Can you please give me hints and tips what to change, how to experiment with honing, to make it razor sharp??
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Thnx
Lucas

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As said, first look at the edge with magnification, chances are the bevel is not completely set.

While the pyramid can get an edge on a razor, you cannot hone a razor by formula. You have to do what the razor needs, and unless you look at the edge at various stages you will not know what or when, to do next. In essence you are honing blind.

Sharpness comes from, COMPLEATLY setting the bevel, then you refine/straighten the edge for comfort and add keenness by polishing the bevel and reducing the stria so the edge becomes thinner and straighter.

Here is a good post of a new guy honing a razor from start to finish, with great micrographs of his edges. Second try at Honing.

Get some magnification, a 60X lighted loupe, $2-5, or a Carson Micro max 200, at 10-15 bucks.

As said, stropping is critical, and learning to strop properly can take some time, one missed stroke can ruin and edge.

Also posting a photo of your razor might help, both sides.

Lucas you are gradually giving more information and it is helping to provide a better sense of what is going on. Now you have revealed that you are comparing a feather shavette with a Dovo straight. Do you know that you need to use a lower angle for the straight razor? The spine need to be closer to your face when shaving with it.

Also, are you stropping the razor and if so, what strop are you using?

Lucas

So, you have not used a straight razor before but have some experience with a shavette, your straight razor has a factory edge and this is the first time you have tried to hone a straight razor. What you have created is a recipe for a disaster, unfortunately.

I'd start from square one again. Send your straight razor to a recognized professional to have it properly honed to shave ready. If you add your location to your profile somebody might be better able to tell you where to send it.

After you have done that and have your razor back, shave with it WITHOUT stropping it. That will show you what a shave ready edge feels and shaves like. It also eliminates the possibility that you are dulling the edge with poor stropping which can happen with a beginner. Strop it before your second shave and if the edge feels duller then it is an indication that your stropping is dulling the blade.

I would get a second used vintage razor in decent condition to learn to hone on. Honing is an acquired skill/art that is more than just following a technical method. It simply is not that easy. Again if you add your location to your profile there might be someone close to you that will be able to give you some personal one on one instruction on how to hone.

Bob