Quote Originally Posted by Euclid440 View Post
So, to hone a smiling razor, there are 2 easy methods.

Use a Heel forward, Rolling X stroke, where you vary the pressure by lightly torqueing the edge, onto the stone and slightly lifting the heel, as you travel down and across the stone, especially when bevel setting. Ink will help here, visualizing where you are making contact on the bevel.

Or you can hone the razor, in 3 parts, straight hone the toe, middle and heel separately, then blend the 3 facets with an X stroke.

Either way you can vary the pressure, to even up the bevel width to a degree.

The smile on your razor, is not that pronounced, but you will have to do some gymnastics and modify pressure, to get the heel and toe honed. Because of the multiple bevels, ink will help you see where you are making contact and honing to the edge.

The Chosera will easily cut a new bevel. This is a repair, not your garden variety honing at this point.

In this case, even though you are setting a bevel, it is more repair work, where you will be using more pressure, than usual, to cut a new bevel. Once you cut a new, single, flat bevel, you will probably have a chippy edge, joint the edge and reset the whole edge with light pressure.

A lot will depend on the condition of the razor.
Quote Originally Posted by Euclid440 View Post
Here is a good post, that is basically on jointing and honing to an already straight edge. Hone a Straight Edge or to a Straight Edge?

The thread does get a bit side tracked about the interpretation of Iwasaki’s method, but there is still a lot of good discussion.

In that thread on post 33 there is a link to Alex Gilmore’s video of honing a razor. At about 6.25, Alex joints the razor using his interpretation of the Iwasaki method.

I believe in some of Glenn’s videos, he also demonstrates the technique as I describe below.

I typically just very lightly draw the razor from heel to toe across the upper vertical corner of the stone one time. It removes any false edge and straightens the edge. The bevels will no longer be meeting, but will come back to meeting in 6-10 light laps.

Alex says the technique is similar to killing an edge on a glass, but I feel a stone cuts a fresh edge, where a glass rolls the edge and it eventually breaks off.

Make sure to watch part 2, post 35, of Alex’s method.

BTW, Alex has many great videos of honing and his AX Method at his site, the Japan Stone.
Quote Originally Posted by Utopian View Post
I side-tracked that thread because I saw no point in allowing the continued propagation of what I consider to be a completely wrong interpretation. I will continue to maintain that this interpretation cannot be correct, for the same two reasons.

1. Iwasaki described this as the last step of honing. He did not say it was to prepare for the final step. He said that it was the final step. I do not believe that jointing the edge is the last honing step.

2. Iwasaki stated that this final honing step was to be done for 10-15 minutes. I do not believe that jointing the edge should, by any stretch of the imagination, be done for 10-15 minutes.

Alex's video stated that after a single back and forth stroke, the edge was dulled. It is obvious that this stroke should not be the last honing step and should not be done for 10 minutes, so it also is obvious that this is not what Iwasaki was describing.
Quote Originally Posted by Euclid440 View Post
“I side-tracked that thread because I saw no point in allowing the continued propagation of what I consider to be a completely wrong interpretation.”

Wow, you really are full of yourself, that was over a year and a half, ago…

I did not know you could channel Iwasaki. I suppose, that jewel was based on your translation of the original, Japanese?

Dude, you really need to eat more fiber… or something.

More importantly, your post, has nothing to do with the OP’s question.

Again, you are not being helpful, but, you certainly are living up to your reputation.
Quote Originally Posted by Utopian View Post
You linked to the old thread. I did not. You once again have been rude. I was not.

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