Thread: This one got me completely baffled(including microscope pictures!!!)

occasionally i would get a cheap gold dollar to hone up if i dont have any razors needing the stones touch at the moment. anyway this one is driving me crazy and i just can't figure out the issue. one side of the bevel shows scratches going up to the edge ,while the other side of the bevel well i will let the picture speak.
doesn't matter how much i work on the 1K the situation is not changing.
i am really trying to understand what is going on for educational purposes

Maybe the grind is asymmetrical? Something like the shoulder of the spine is lower on one side than the other?

If you are using tape when honing you could try adding layers of tape.

Bob

Are these photos of each side?

If so, you are not reaching the edge on either side. You need more pressure or tape to increase the angle.

You can also hold the spine off the stone, about a ¼ inch to put an edge on it, then hone normally with the spine on the stone. Ink the bevel to see when you are honing all the way the edge.

The high angle honing will remove some of the metal at the edge. Then, you just have to remove the apex of the secondary bevel. This helps sometimes with very hard razors, by reducing the amount of metal to be removed, and you do not have to use as much pressure. You will still need some pressure, though.

The edge will be ragged when you are honing all the way to the edge. Just joint the edge and reset on the 1k, then move up.

This is not typical honing, this is more of a repair, as such sometimes unconventional means are required.

add one layer of tape and see what that does. You have to figure out a way to set the bevel on the problematic side.

euclid both pictures are from the same side i did not include a picture of the other side which shows the scratches reaching the edge.
i would try to add some tape and see the effect but i am sceptic since i have really spent a long time on the 1K stone doing circles and half strokes ending up with the same result.
what could cause such a significant change between the 2 sides of the bevel ?

had the same thing happen with my last restore. Drove me nuts. I ended up putting a layer of tape on one side, and a thousand layers on the other; job done.

that is not a bad idea rickpalisoc it might help at the very least in diagnosing the problem i will give it a try

How is it the same side in both pics? The scratch patterns are leaning different directions. Are these photos taken after different honing sessions or something?

i think one of the pictures is from an older attempt as this is not the first time i am trying to tackle this razor i probably did another type of stroke toe leading just to see the difference
i will get more pictures of both sides when i finish my shift

Could be a warped blade, check the water flow on the hone going both directions. Rolling x-stroke or maybe a narrow hone might help