Naw. :)
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Naw. :)
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Yup, move on then send more pics. It will not take much now. You could be shave testing very soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Utopian
8K, two layers, doing a J/C shaped stroke. Seem to be getting to the edge on each stroke, checking several times. Ended up doing 30 strokes over all (was trying to eliminate some horizontal lines). Here are high rez, lower rez, and edge shots. Had a hard time getting it in focus, without shadows or really bright spots. Maybe comparing the low and high rez shots, you can see an area in better detail. I can retake, if needed.
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The edge seems very sharp, cutting arm hairs. There are some stria that are deeper than others, but not frequently.
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Try a test shave. If it does ok go ahead to your finisher, if it doesn't then it still needs more work
This ^Quote:
Originally Posted by KenWeir
Test ur 8k edge & then test your 12 k edge.
I'll give it a test shave tomorrow morning, and see what it is like.
Shaved using the Boker today. It gave a close shave with no irritation! This is off the 8k, after qhich i stopped on linen 25x and leather 75x. I'll go to the 12k SS and test again, just for grins, but it seems fine (assuming it holds its edge).
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Hey, how about a little optimism here!Quote:
Originally Posted by pcm
Congrats on your progress.
Thanks! I'm happy with the latest honing, even with some deeper stria showing (granted at hi rez). Was going backwards for a bit, nice to go two steps forward.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Utopian
Thanks for the help everyone. This is probably my 8th honing 'exercise', but since it's only once every few months and each razor I have is quite different, it poses quite a challenge.
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I will remind you of something JimmyHAD has said several times. It was something like, "the less magnification I used, the better my honing looked!"
Grats on the result :tu
Argh!!! Two steps back....
On the 12K, 2 layers of tape, did 5 strokes with moderate pressure, torquing to get to the edge, and doing a backward J shaped stroke, inking to check. Did 5 more with lighter pressure, but when going away from me, the razor rolled (and dug in a bit) on the stone. I checked and it seems like 1/3 from the toe and in the middle it has messed the edge. I tried a few strokes with a finger on the middle. maybe a little bit better, but I'm wondering what to do. Drop to 8K? 4K? Here's a high and low rez shot of one area. It's hard to see in low rez, but it's there (this is the side that was up at the time of the roll):
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Suggestions?
Personally I would start from scratch, re set the bevel on the 1k..
I wouldn't use any pressure on the 12k either..
Some one might have better advise than me :)
Good luck
Careful about pressure when finishing, just enough to maintain contact. When you get to the 12k, you are past the stage where you are trying to remove metal and at a polishing stage. Take it very easy and watch carefully what you are doing. I would try the 4k to see if it can reset the bevel without too much effort, if not then back to the 1k.
Ah well we all make mistakes.
Back to 4k or 1k if too slow for you.
Oh btw, there is really no need for anything but the lightest pressure on 12k.
In fact, just for the exercise do all your repair work with the lightest pressure & see what effect you have. If your strokes are optimal you may be surprised.
Hone @12k like you are trying to do nothing to the edge. The edge was already there @ 8k & shave tested well.
Also, check your hone for damage, the 12k is relatively soft, as I recall.
Yeah, there was a groove in it that I took out with the DMT. Lesson learned on the pressure. I was trying to torque to get the toe to contact...guess I shouldn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by sqzbxr
Will try 4K and see what happens.
Torque is rotational force . How much you apply is the issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by pcm
The above advice is all sound. Don't go crazy about the torquing. It really is more of a focussing of the pressure on the edge than an actual torquing. Keep it all light on the 12k.
Every time you go through this you are getting better.
Yes. On 12k I just "think" about the torque rather than trying to physically apply it. A different focus :)
Back to 4K, with J strokes and 2 layers of tape. Took about 80 strokes to fix the middle, and then I noticed a ding near the toe (likely bumped the plastic guard on the microscope, and did another 40 (with tape change) for than, and a final 20 strokes that are lighter. Shots of each side in hi rez and the edge:
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Went to 8K with 2 layers and did 30 strokes...
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Hopefully not too blurry at this magnification. Hard to hold steady.
And 25 strokes on the 12K with 2 layers (I did more than I planned, but was trying to make sure that it was pushing the water forward at the toe, so needed extra passes:
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Will test shave in a bit...
The best test of all :)Quote:
Originally Posted by pcm
Lmao, yeah if it passes the shave test we know it'll shave!Quote:
Originally Posted by onimaru55
Blood spurting everywhere, huge rashes, and layers of skin missing...
Actually, the shave came out fine. Can't say it was smoother than the 8k. Seemed similar, but I'll take it as a success. Most importantly, it didn't take as long to bring it back.
Lesson learned on pressure...hopefully I'll check my notes next time I hone the next blade in a month or two.
Appreciate the advice and support everyone!
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Thanx for the update. Seems your getting better at this stuff :)Quote:
Originally Posted by pcm
As for pressure: Best general advice I can give is don't try too hard. It's a super thin piece of steel with a super thin edge. it shouldn't take much work unless it's a restoration.
Or a near wedge, like the blade I honed over the Summer (a Saunders).Quote:
Originally Posted by onimaru55
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That's the key. Wedges tend to have wider bevels that necessitate the removal of more steel, and you can use pressure to speed this process because of their relative rigidity. Thin hollow grounds are a different matter, pressure must be applied lightly and judiciously else you will flex the blade and shift the contact away from the very edge. I suspect that a lot of the issues you had with this blade earlier on with the honing not reaching the edge were mainly due to pressure.Quote:
Originally Posted by pcm
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On bevel set I'll agree with you but on finishing it's still a super thin edge & needs to be treated as such.Quote:
Originally Posted by pcm
