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    Like I said, 2nd grade art skills
    I still haven't mastered the art of doodling on a mobile device.

    Edit: Euclid, when you have to revise a heel like that, do you do it on your regular honing side of the stone or do you turn it to use another surface?
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    Let me give you a little hint when doing re-contours on blades

    This trick allows you to get a good idea of what you need to do BEFORE you do it if you take the pics it really helps show you what the final out come will look like

    http://straightrazorpalace.com/works...ml#post1002510
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    For doing repair work on heels. I use a diamond plate or a diamond file. I have a 400/1k diamond file that offers great control for re-profileing heels and edges. It is shown in the template post, they are sold on line, and I use it all the time. The 1k file will kill an edge in one swipe when you are doing repair work or going to the buffers, it is much safer, have not cut myself bad in years.

    You can also use a Diamond plate, with the spine on the bench or by holding the plate at an angle, with one end on the bench and the other up off the bench at 45 degrees, hold the razor heel, on the plate to cut the facets.

    Or you can use a stone. Use the back side or lap after use.

    For edge work, I also use Diamond plates,140, 300, 400, 1k and a 1k stone progression, depending on how much you need to remove and the hardness of the steel. You just want to hog off material with Diamonds, (get close) and finish on stones, (to your line).

    A 1k stone will do it all, just a bit slower, and slower is not a bad thing for this kind of work.

    If you don’t have another stone just lap it if the face is scared, or use the back.

    Bottom line, Have a plan…
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    Thanks for the detailed discription. I think i git it now. And i see what you mean as far as having a nicer look at the heal/stabilizer. As far as following the spine, like you said, thats more of what a person likes. But if a eazor has a sway-back spine i would think a smile would make it look better.

    Thanks for all this information. I hope when i have to do this i can put all this info to good use.
    MERRY CHRISTMAS to all.

    Thanks to all for your personal input. Ill be printing this out!
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    Jerry, this isn't my work, far from it as I would have corrected it long before it got to this point. However it will show you a classic example of one of the problems you run into when breadknifing a 'Heel Hook', also notice that he's into the stabilizer, that's what being talked about needing to be corrected.

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    I hope this is of some help to you and others.

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    Thanks Roy for the pic. Yep, im getting what is being said. Something i didnt think about at all so im glad this all came out before i atempted to do this. It will be a while before im ready for this as ill need some real hones and diamond plates but some day ill go for it.

    And yep, half day off. Got to go get the truck running in about two hours. You know, if everyone just didnt buy any gas yesterday, i could take today off. Yeah right! Ha. Merry Christmas to all and enjoy time with family. I'll have Christmas diner when i get home this evening. The family is used to it. Life of a truck driver.
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    Made a file on my computer of all this info. I loose stuff on forums. Thanks for all the input. This is going to come in handy some day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gasman View Post
    Thanks for the detailed discription. I think i git it now. And i see what you mean as far as having a nicer look at the heal/stabilizer. As far as following the spine, like you said, thats more of what a person likes. But if a eazor has a sway-back spine i would think a smile would make it look better.
    My great grandpa's razor has a straight spine and bit of a smile in the edge. I want to keep it that way, gives it character
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenWeir View Post
    My great grandpa's razor has a straight spine and bit of a smile in the edge. I want to keep it that way, gives it character
    You also want to keep it that way because it would require a lot of unnecessary steel removal to "correct" that smile. Old barber manuals gave advice for how to deliberately create a smile to make the razor into an easier shaver. You are right to leave it as it is.

    Also, I forgot about the thread till now, but if you do a search for "family jewels" and if necessary, my username, you should find a thread where people posted photos and stories of their family heirloom razors. You could add yours to it.

    Edit: I went ahead and found it for you HERE.
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    I've seen the DMT D8C but everyone talks about a DMT 8C. Is this the same thing? I'm thinking it is but just want some clarity. Also found them in 6 inch double sided. Is it worth the extra? Maybe a fine on the other side for knife sharpening? Comments? I know its not the same as what this thread started as but... I started it.
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