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02-09-2017, 07:03 PM #1
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Thanked: 3795It may just be a photographic artifact, but I just noticed that the 8k photo may be showing that the bevel is not reaching the edge on the right side of the blade. The reflection pattern of the bevel leaves the edge on that side of the photo.
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02-09-2017, 07:36 PM #2
That is possible. It could be the refletion of the light or not light. I'll have to check on that one.
I've spent the last 2 hours trying to get the bevel set on this Second ZY razor I have. I'll show 2 pics now. One before I touched it. Yikes! And the next after 2 hours on the 1K. It still wont pass the TPT.??? And barely cuts hair on my arm. I've went at this thing in many patterns on the hone. Started with+ preassure and slury to blade onlt presure and straight water. Its just not agreeing. It looks great under the microscope but its telling me the edges havent met. I know ive taken away metel on both side so I cant emagine the edjes have met.
I was think to go to the 4k and see if it will turn up some more but dont know if this is right. I've Killed the edge a couple times too while on the 1K to see if that would help and still no go.???
Yikes!
After 2 hrs
Opinions?
I mean look at that 1K bevel. Its a beauty but wont cut hair at all.It's just Sharpening, right?
Jerry...
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02-09-2017, 07:51 PM #3
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Thanked: 481Have you looked straight down at the edge? If it won't cut hair, I'm thinking the edges aren't meeting yet.
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02-09-2017, 08:17 PM #4
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Thanked: 59That x stroke of yours does not look like mine. I keep my blade straight 90 degrees to the stone and then while keeping the 90 degrees i pull down and across the stone, so that when I am at the end of the stroke my tip is the only thing touching the stone. Turn it around and do the same thing the other way. Someone has the technique as their avatar but I can't remember who it is.
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02-09-2017, 08:54 PM #5
Figued it out I think. I've been honing away for 2 hours on 1K on the same piece of tape.
This is causing my bevel to get wider and not staying in contact with the edge.
I know better than this. Sorry all.
As far as MY X stroke. Its done with the heal leading and a bit of a swoop at the end to make the toe catch up just a bit. More of a straight down the stone then a little off the edge. I'd do more standard X stroke but this razor has a bit of a stabilizer/shoulder/little sharp piece. Ha. So that the heal is just on the stone. If I go in an X then the heal is only on the stone for for very little time.
Hope that made sense.Last edited by Gasman; 02-09-2017 at 08:56 PM.
It's just Sharpening, right?
Jerry...
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02-09-2017, 08:58 PM #6
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Thanked: 59I gotcha, sounds good to me.
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02-09-2017, 08:59 PM #7
Nothing wrong with using a heel-leading x-stroke to clear the stabilizer, it's a pretty standard honing stroke. Changing it to 90 degrees won't offer any advantage. Good catch on the tape wear, check it every 20 laps or so when bevel setting.
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02-09-2017, 09:01 PM #8
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Thanked: 115You must not be using any pressure on blade, 2 hrs on a 1000 I wouldnt have any tape left, Did you notice little black pieces on hone?? We,ve all been there it is easy to get lazy on changing the tape, Thats how we learn, Ty
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02-09-2017, 08:59 PM #9
Ya Randy dance has it on his avatar, gasman, maybe try another piece of tape, I,m of the opinion your not getting to the edge, and two hours? I can't even imagine that in a 1k. After 20-30 minutes it's time to evaluate the job again. With the usual bad geometry of those razors, you just may need to add a layer, like was said look at the very edge straight down with light and see if there is any reflections. Tc
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02-09-2017, 09:07 PM #10
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Thanked: 59I'm sorry, I meant to say that what I'm seeing on your razor does not look like what I get when doing 90 degree x strokes. Looks like the pattern left is the same grain as the blade itself which is straight across. No x pattern at all. My scratch pattern looks like it is 45 degrees to the blade. I see a few lines of 45 degree pattern but not the whole thing.
This is my edge, finished though. Can still see the 45 degree pattern left.
Upside down anyone?
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