Thread: My next honing challenge- chipped bevel

Originally Posted by Sdm84

@JOB15 there is no bevel.

I think I will start by putting a bevel on with shapton pro 1.5k and see where I am.

If I was going to breadknife wouldn't I do that before I set the bevel?

I am thinking going as conservative as possible to save steel? Is it a 6 of one half dozen of the other type of situation?

Yes, if you were going to breadknife it out you'd typically do that first. Otherwise you'll just wreck the bevel you cut and have to re-do it anyway.

2 different roads, end result should be the same. If I opted to bread-knife that out, I would probably stop before the chip was completely removed then sneak up on the last little bit during bevel setting. Same amount of steel has to go regardless of which way you choose to do it. You just have to remember not to focus in on the spot with the chip and wear that side more than the rest. Equal attention all along the edge, and be careful not to do more than necessary.

Here are some "before" pictures of the bevel and the chip. I am playing around with my new usb microscope and it is pretty good! Not hard to use at all and for $30 can't go wrong. I believe that the lower magnification is roughly 60x and the higher magnification is about 250x

Nice photo's! What USB camera is it? My 5mp can't do that last photo you shot. I'm jealous, I must have one immediately!

Originally Posted by Aerdvaark

Nice photo's! What USB camera is it? My 5mp can't do that last photo you shot. I'm jealous, I must have one immediately!

LOL! You actually have a better scope than I do! Mine is just 2mp but it is pretty slick- I was surprised. Here is the link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I really think it will help analyze my honing and of course I can post better pictures here for you guys to help.

That might be the best mine will do. How are you zooming in so far to get that tiny chip? My Celestron 5mp is turned up all the way. No enhancements other than using my own lighting. I can't see your bevel....wait a minute, I thought your entire photo was your bevel. If that is your bevel close to the edge then that is a huge chunk out of your blade. I think I judged your photo wrongly...

After watching gssixgun's video on breadknifing- I set to work. I breadknifed on my DMT8C at 90 degrees, then 60 degrees, then 45 degrees until I was close- I sort of went by intuition as to honing vs. breadknifing strokes (as he says in the video) when I got what I thought was pretty close I went to 3 layers of tape, circles 20 at a time until I was closer, then same with two layers till it was just barely there and went to 1.5k shapton pro for circles/x strokes.

Went to the 120x handheld micro and still saw it so continued on the 1.5k until I couldn't see it in the 120x. Time for the USB microscope. At the highest resolution it was still noticeable, so I kept going x strokes on the 1.5k. Here is the final result:

You can see I marked the area with sharpie- in the higher magnification the black blob is the sharpie. There is all kinds of dust on the bevel from the towel I was using to wipe off the blade after honing, but you get the idea.

This was harder than I thought gssixgun makes it look so easy!

I am going to hone it up the progression and shave with it tomorrow. We shall see.

Thanks for all of the help- I am sure I'll be back with questions on my next honing challenge!

Well- more information. Honed on shapton pro stones 1.5k, 5k, 8k, 12k then 300 or so laps on my newly acquired (and already partially burnished- more info in my other thread in hones forum) black arkansas.

Please feel free to post observations- I am here to learn

~Grasshopper

1st picture is shapton pro 12k, second picture is after arkansas and stropping:

Originally Posted by Sdm84

Great! I will definitely check that out- I have heard of that procedure but want to be sure I do it correctly too nice of a razor to trust to trial and error.

I have another Genco that I absolutely love so I was really glad to find this one for a great price.

That's not a Genco, Its a Geneva Cutlery, Pyramid, fine shavers these are, set the bevel and that tiny chip will be history.

Originally Posted by Sdm84

Well- more information. Honed on shapton pro stones 1.5k, 5k, 8k, 12k then 300 or so laps on my newly acquired (and already partially burnished- more info in my other thread in hones forum) black arkansas.

Please feel free to post observations- I am here to learn

~Grasshopper

1st picture is shapton pro 12k, second picture is after arkansas and stropping:

The edge looks better on the first pic, that black Arkansas stone burnished?

Originally Posted by Martin103

The edge looks better on the first pic, that black Arkansas stone burnished?

Well....I have started the process. It is somewhat reflective at this point. I plan to work on it every night until it shines like glass but wow lots of elbow grease to do!