Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 30
Like Tree32Likes

Thread: Maxing out Jnats

  1. #1
    Senior Member yondermountain91's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Location
    Somewhere in Mass.
    Posts
    320
    Thanked: 80

    Default Maxing out Jnats

    I have a Jnat that I feel like just isn't producing a sharp enough edge. The edge it leaves is ridiculously smooth, however I feel like my coarse thick beard prefers a much keener edge. I am still very new to honing but have gotten shaving edges every time thus far. I should mention that I found out about inclusions and how they chip the hard way. Really should have went with synthetics , but I'm hooked so to late. I finish with light slurry then dilute to plain water as the razor gets sticky. I have read running water or glycerin, what are your thoughts on maxing out a stone.
    "If the brakes don't stop it, something will"

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    758
    Thanked: 104

    Default

    Photo would be good

  3. #3
    Senior Member blabbermouth
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Location
    Virginia, USA
    Posts
    2,224
    Thanked: 481

    Default

    I guess I got lucky with my Jnat, it makes a pretty keen edge without the usual bag of tricks. You could try finishing on a thin/watery shave lather, since this can be easily washed away with no ill effect on the stone.
    niftyshaving likes this.

  4. #4
    KN4HJP sqzbxr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    Chesapeake, Virginia
    Posts
    932
    Thanked: 261

    Default

    I would not let glycerin or any foreign material near any of my Jnats. When diluted to pure water, rinse the stone and razor and continue on fresh water. The more laps on water, the keener the edge. Some stones can overhone if pushed too far on water, so maybe start with 20 laps and then test. Add another 10 if you think it needs it and then strop and test shave. With any natural stone, expect to do a lot of experiments an testing.

    A couple of notes - with added keenness comes a loss of smoothness; and if you go to far, just go back to Tomo slurry and do as you did before, but with fewer laps on pure water.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    onimaru55 likes this.
    "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats." -H. L. Mencken

  5. #5
    Senior Member blabbermouth
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Diamond Bar, CA
    Posts
    6,553
    Thanked: 3215

    Default

    Rarely is the finish the problem.

    Are you sure the bevel is/was fully set, what is your progression?

    As said, photos of the stone and razor would help.
    Butzy likes this.

  6. #6
    illegitimum non carborundum Utopian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Rochester, MN
    Posts
    11,544
    Thanked: 3795
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by sqzbxr View Post
    I would not let glycerin or any foreign material near any of my Jnats.
    I don't remember ever trying glycerin on a Jnat, but given that it is highly water soluble, I cannot imagine any harm that it could cause to one.

  7. #7
    Senior Member blabbermouth
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Location
    Virginia, USA
    Posts
    2,224
    Thanked: 481

    Default

    Alternatively, if you have synthetic hones you could get the razor shaving off those, then move over to finish on the Jnat with pure water. That will eliminate if it's a problem with your slurry technique, and establish a baseline for how well the hone finishes.

  8. #8
    At this point in time... gssixgun's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    North Idaho Redoubt
    Posts
    26,963
    Thanked: 13226
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Honestly there are only ideas here since we are not honing on your stone

    If I were to use plain water on my Nakayama I would be going backwards in the finish

    Naturals and J-nats in particular need to be romanced to get the most of them

    Some really good looking fella once said "Synthetics are a Science,,, Naturals are a Romance" Make sure you want to start it before you buy them..

    Here is another finishing trick that works on some of them

    Once the slurry has broken down and you continue the finishing laps, STOP adding water and let the surface go to almost dry as your strokes get lighter slower and more perfect..

    Depends on the stone but on some of them this will draw out the "keenness"
    Last edited by gssixgun; 06-08-2017 at 04:21 PM.

  9. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to gssixgun For This Useful Post:

    Dachsmith (08-30-2018), Matt1222 (06-08-2017), MedicineMan (06-09-2017)

  10. #9
    Senior Member blabbermouth
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Location
    Virginia, USA
    Posts
    2,224
    Thanked: 481

    Default

    And now I have something new to try on my own stone. Further down the rabbit hole...
    gssixgun likes this.

  11. #10
    Senior Member yondermountain91's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Location
    Somewhere in Mass.
    Posts
    320
    Thanked: 80

    Default

    Well I just tried the dishsoap and it definitely brought the keenness up but as someone said it was a little harsh so I will have to try again. Under 120x mag there's no chipping going on so I think it was just to sharp or maybe I didn't strop it enough. More testing to come I guess, I will have to try the little water and see how that works. Thanks so much for the help, have a light green thuri on its way so I cannot wait to use that as my finsisher and the Jnat as pre-finisher. Also I am an end user so the bevels have all been set by pros and I am just refreshing the edges.

    Here's the stone.
    Name:  XEeh3v7h.jpg
Views: 258
Size:  18.0 KB
    Marshal likes this.
    "If the brakes don't stop it, something will"

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •