Quote Originally Posted by Utopian View Post
I realize that I am not being helpful by commenting on the seller. As a minor penance, I will tell you that Randy (Randydance######--I've never bothered to remember the numbers that follow) has one so you could ask him for his opinion of it and advice about using one.
You are just fine Ron, I truly do see your point. I asked for thoughts and I am getting them, can't beat that. No harm in any of this. If Randydance doesn't chime in I'll holler at him and get some ideas. Just tried water and oil as suggested. Did this after my 5k and I'll have to wait to see the results for certain. Maybe it is just an after 5k stone maybe not.