Thread: SOS Need some help.

I’m not going to post the link, but you should watch drmatt357 on YouTube and his “tap and wobble” test, along with his follow up on repairing warped blades.

I’m not a professional but I am a serious hobbiest, with nearly 40 razors that I hone and use regularly. Experience comes from practice. It’s easier to practice what you see. Watch lots of good videos from reliable sources.

I agree with all the previous: tape and x-stroke are the answer.

It's easier to learn to hone razors as they are as opposed to flattening everything. There's plenty of razors that wobble after they have a good edge. there arent too many razors that are perfectly flat and straight.

You know its funny that you bring him up, I consider him kinda a friend and we talk on facebook sometimes and after watching his videos thats when I went to pressure and half stokes. Thinking I could straighten this sucker out in no time. It was after a quick search I found that repeated straight strokes could lead to a frown. And I only own 3 razors out of 7 that pass that tap and wobble. And with a 60x lighted loupe even the flat razors aren't exactly flat. So I usually do just x strokes. But this Parker is different I think it laughs a my chosera 1k so I got fustrated that it was taking so long to set the bevel after jointing it. So I started using pressure and half strokes. Like after talking with you guys and researching a bit I think this razor is warped and by me using excessive pressure I put a frown in the blade. So I think it was a combination of both a warped razor and pressure thing all compounding the issue of a frown. It is going in the right direction, and I learned something. Put the razor down, have a drink, and re-group.

Originally Posted by yondermountain91

So I started using pressure

And that's the way to wear out a razor.

Any sort of re-profiling is really best left after a bunch of experience and being able to see & understand what needs to be done.
Warped razors should not automatically be ground for repair. In many cases they can be honed as is.

Correcting a frown often ends in some spine wear but it does not need to be excessive. Pressure is you enemy in most straight razor related things.

Oz speaks the truth. A razor cannot be condemned until an honest effort has been put forward.
In my case, corrections come in as last-ditch techniques.
Light corrections solve most problems, I have found.
Yet it takes experience and time to accomplish.

Many times, the value of the razor should be considered.
Might not be worth the effort, said and done.

Some cannot even be fixed.
Most of the time, it was a previous honer attempting to fix all at once who had ruined it. JMO.

Idk I wasn't trying to correct the geometry of the blade using half strokes. I didn't even really think there was a warp till earlier today when I posted this. It's funny cause when I honed this razor a few days ago I messaged him telling about my sub-par edge and he told me to use tape and do some very light finishing strokes on the 12k. So had I just took his advice I would at least not have a frowning blade. Or maybe the blade was always frowning and I just never bothered to check on something flat. It isn't like a gaping frown so not something I would have caught with my naked eye. Just thought I should clarify that it wasn't him that told me to use pressure. I did that on my own, again showing the razor who's boss thing. lol

Well, it's best to save the problem ones until there is a pile of better ones under your belt.
Learning how the good stuff feels along the way gives you something to shoot for.
That begins the process of correction.
I am still pulling them back out!

Agreed, I have a Henckels 72 1/2 that I bought from sqzbxr about a year ago. And that edge is basically perfect to me. So that has been my 'control' razor since I got it. And then recently I sent my wade out to get a coticule edge put it and that one is also a treat to use. And the Dovo I honed last week on the Jnat definitely stacks up just maybe not quite as keen. So I know I'm on the right track, this particular razor is just really hard, and is like the problem razor in my bunch.

Originally Posted by yondermountain91

You know its funny that you bring him up, I consider him kinda a friend and we talk on facebook sometimes and after watching his videos thats when I went to pressure and half stokes. Thinking I could straighten this sucker out in no time. It was after a quick search I found that repeated straight strokes could lead to a frown. And I only own 3 razors out of 7 that pass that tap and wobble. And with a 60x lighted loupe even the flat razors aren't exactly flat. So I usually do just x strokes. But this Parker is different I think it laughs a my chosera 1k so I got fustrated that it was taking so long to set the bevel after jointing it. So I started using pressure and half strokes. Like after talking with you guys and researching a bit I think this razor is warped and by me using excessive pressure I put a frown in the blade. So I think it was a combination of both a warped razor and pressure thing all compounding the issue of a frown. It is going in the right direction, and I learned something. Put the razor down, have a drink, and re-group.

I am going to be blunt here and this is just my opinion so take it for what it is worth, nothing. If you want to destroy a razor keep following your friends methods.

Bob

heres a picture looking down the blade IDK, maybe ya'll will see something I don't. Was really hard to get my phone to focus.