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Thread: My new Thuri.
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02-04-2019, 07:10 AM #21
Put 3 razors on the Thuri tonight. Had to go from bevel set with 2 of them.
Double Duck: Bevel set to 8K then Thuri with Slurry and pressure, then diluted the slurry little by little but still with pressure. Then clear water, in the end, lightening up the pressure until feather touch for the last 30 or so laps.
I did this with the Hibbard Spencer too, except I worked up to a 12K before going to the Thuri.
Last was an Imperial I had finished on a 20K. I did about 2/3 of the number of laps as the other 2 razors. Going from Slurry with pressure and lightening up and diluting the entire time until clear water for the last 30 or so laps.
The TPT tells my the Imperial has the keenness edge and it sure looks good too under the scope. So for your scope picture enjoyment here is the Imperial.
A little double bevel going on but it was that way before the Thuri stone and one hell of a straight smooth looking edge. All 3 razors were undercutting the slurry and clear water the entire time. Nice! Plus this was my first try at honing in my hand. I liked it! The stone was able to rock/pivot a little so it was easier to keep the edge flat on the stone. I'm not sure if it was easier to hone in my hand or on a holder as far as arm and back stress goes, but I sure liked it. I will be doing this more often.
Test shave tomorrow.
BTW, That is one of my Arm Hairs above the edge. Not intentional. But it does give a size comparison.It's just Sharpening, right?
Jerry...
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02-04-2019, 03:01 PM #22
I like the way you used the synthetics to give yourself a nice consistent baseline to see the effects of the thuringian. I have done something very very similar recently with my black Arkansas. I am interested in the results.
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02-04-2019, 03:08 PM #23
That is a beautiful edge, should shave like a dream.
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02-04-2019, 03:58 PM #24
Very nice clear pictures!
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Gasman (02-05-2019)
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02-05-2019, 01:00 AM #25
Test shaved with all 3. In my opinion, and comparing to the 20k edge im now used to id say they all felt lacking. They cut whiskers but not wiping them off my face with no effort. Even the Imperial with the great looking edge was not as nice as I thought it was going to be. Id have to say the razor finished with the 12k then Thuri was the best edge. And since i didnt do as much time on the Thuri with the Imperial, that might have made a difference.
Now this being my first test i didnt expect a miricle but i got a good feeling about the stone. Its just going to need a little more practice. I dont know what i can do differently but time will tell. Im happy that they shaved even if not as keen as Im used too.
BTW, i did get a wood box made for the stone today. Will post it in another area.It's just Sharpening, right?
Jerry...
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02-05-2019, 03:04 AM #26
Well you may just be narrowing down what you like in a razor. I think it was a pretty solid test. Since you like the keenness of the 20k I would recommend elimating all of it except some finishing strokes with just water and no pressure. That may have given you the best of both worlds in that it is keen yet smooth. Maybe? Otherwise maybe that GOK20K is your stone. Many prefer the keenness of that stone while others prefer a smoother edge. The search continues.....
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Gasman (02-05-2019)
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02-05-2019, 04:41 AM #27
I spent some more time on the Thuri tonight with 2 of the razors. Will test again in a day or so. But you may have a point Steel. I will give that a try soon too. Sounds like a way to get the best of both. Thanks!
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Jerry...
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02-05-2019, 01:19 PM #28
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Thanked: 559I haven’t had a chance to try out a Thuri or an Escher, so I might be talking out of my hat. It’s always interesting (and confusing) to combine synthetic and natural stones.
I take my edges up to 8K on a Norton or a coticule, which many claim is also around that grit (if you can apply that grit rating to a natural stone ) and then finish on a Vermio, which the vendor claims is equivalent to a synthetic 15K. I get smooth and keen on my edges.
Read somewhere that the Thuris act like a 12k-15k grit synthetic stone. I wonder if in going to 20K and then the Thuri, you might be walking your edge back in keenness. Have you tried going from something less than 12k and then to the Thuri?David
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02-05-2019, 03:07 PM #29
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Thanked: 3215Damn Jerry, you have come a long way that, is a nice edge.
Try a light worked Thuringian slurry on the 20k, you might be surprised. I have been experimenting with Jnat slurry on an old fine Lilly White and old Translucent Ark with some impressive results.
Experiment with breaking down your slurry, doing more laps as opposed to just thinning. Save a worked slurry, I use small Japanese saucers to save slurry, because you don’t want to do too many laps on the 20k or you end up with a 20k edge.
I don’t like the 20k edge, but it is a polisher and can add keenness in but a few laps. I often take an edge to the 20k to polish the bevel, then joint the edge and finish on a natural, so I know all I’m looking at is the natural finish on the bevel.
Another thing you can try if your Thüringian edge is lacking, add a layer of thin tape, (scotch tape works or Kapton) and do a few light laps on the 20k, 3-10 for a super micro bevel, experiment with the number of laps, surprising what 2 or 3 laps can do.
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02-05-2019, 03:13 PM #30
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Thanked: 3215“BTW, That is one of my Arm Hairs above the edge. Not intentional. But it does give a size comparison.”
That is something guys should do, put a hair on the razor edge and look at it through the scope and the magnification you are using.
Gives you a whole different perspective of what you are looking at when looking at an edge through glass.