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    A burr. They happen often when you use a lot of pressure, like when initially setting a bevel or don’t alternate sides when honing, otherwise known as half laps. They sparkle usually and are extremely sharp but not comfortable to shave with. Jointing the edge goes a long way for removing them (after initially setting a bevel draw the edge on the side of your hone as light as you can a couple times, then reset the bevel with light strokes). This will remove any burr that may have formed from initially setting the bevel or fixing a chip.

    Most problems guys have with honing is at the bevel setting stage. It’s the foundation. You can polish up your bevels with the rest of your honing progression but if the edge isn’t created at the beginning of the progression you’ll have a hell of time getting there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfk742 View Post
    A burr. They happen often when you use a lot of pressure, like when initially setting a bevel or don’t alternate sides when honing, otherwise known as half laps. They sparkle usually and are extremely sharp but not comfortable to shave with. Jointing the edge goes a long way for removing them (after initially setting a bevel draw the edge on the side of your hone as light as you can a couple times, then reset the bevel with light strokes). This will remove any burr that may have formed from initially setting the bevel or fixing a chip.
    I know jointing is a common remedy for that situation but I have never understood the reason when going to the next stone will remove that burr. Just always seemed excessive & like creating more work to me.

    Talking 1k bevel sets. 2,4 or 5k as a next stone will do the job ,no jointing needed. If you manage to get a burr at 20k then a run over some horn or bone should be all the jointing needed or some coarse felt or fire hose stropping

    If you've really gone too hard at 20k maybe jointing or a lower grit stone is a good idea as the edge may really be too delicate at that point.
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    The Science of Sharp blog https://scienceofsharp.com/ provides excellent photomicrographs of edges after various stages and methods of honing/sharpening.

    Some of the statements about sharpening razors may be controversial, but the pictures illustrate many of the concepts about sharp edges talked about on SRP.
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    The whole reason I stay away from diamond hones
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    Quote Originally Posted by outback View Post
    The whole reason I stay away from diamond hones
    I have 1k, 4K, 8k Norton and 12k Naniwa SS

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    Quote Originally Posted by STF View Post
    I have 1k, 4K, 8k Norton and 12k Naniwa SS

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    That’s a pretty complete starter set with which to learn good honing technique.

    Take your time; watch a bunch of good honing videos (Glen Gssixgun has a bunch and he explains what he does very clearly) and check the edge as you go.

    STAY FOCUSED, GO SLOW AND GO SMOOTH. I’ve had to go back to the 1K stone more often than I care to admit because I screwed up a single lap on a higher grit stone and messed up the bevel as a result.

    Strop a bunch after honing.

    Don’t go to the stones unless you really have to. If your razor starts to tug or underperform, try stropping first and/or a few light laps on the barber hone or a pasted strop before you decide to go back to the stones. Many of us hone way more than we need to simply maintain a shave ready edge.
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