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Thread: So, I am Shopping for a 1k Stone for Setting Lots of Bevels

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    Default So, I am Shopping for a 1k Stone for Setting Lots of Bevels

    I need an economical and practical 1k stone. I need a reasonable amount of meat on it so I can lap it a lot and use it a lot. The only 1k stone I have is a half inch thick Naniwa Superstone and I don't want to wear that out honing a bunch of Gold Dollars. Here is what I sort of narrowed it down to.

    Suehiro CERAX 1000, 8.07 x 2.87 x 1.14" $49.99
    Shapton Kuromaku 1000 210 ~ 70 ~ 15 mm $48.64
    King K1000 red/brown 8.2 x 2.8 x 2.4" $39.99
    Naniwa Chosera 1000 8.3 x 2.8 x 1" $99

    Anybody who has used TWO or More of these, please give me your impressions in comparison. I am sort of leaning toward the first two. The king wears quickly. The Chosera seems a little overpriced right now.The Shapton I think is a bit on the thin side though I am not a metric guy so the Cerax is sort of in the lead right now as I shop around.

    I do have plenty of coarse stones and they take most of the punishment but I really think my 1K Naniwa Superstone is out of its element as I am honing over a dozen Gold Dollars some days. I like to hone in the evenings, sitting on our brand new kinda expensive electric 6 way reclining couch as me and the Missus watch movies and stuff, and she positively vetoes bringing the belt sander to the couch LOL! Now I know the Chosera is likely the best but is it twice best? Looking at the price. I seem to remember them being quite a bit cheaper not so long ago.

    From the 1K I am going to 9u, 3u, and 1u film, then .5u, .25u, and .1u diamond on lapped balsa. The gray 15u film I got recently will give me a chippy edge now and then so it is out. Lately I have been going from 600 Chosera to 30u film and then 9u and so on but the 30u film has a tough time of it when the 600 Chosera gets a little out of tune. My stone lapping gear stays out in the shop and I don't like to always be going back and forth.

    I also see a Norton Brown 1000 Grit 8 x 3 x 1" (approx) for $56.99 but I became very disillusioned with that brand about 15 years ago when they seemed to go downhill in quality. Are they any better than they were a few years ago?

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    To me the most important property of a bevel setter is that you enjoy using it, because you will likely spend more time using it than the next three stones together.

    A lot of people like the 1.5k Kuromaku over the 1k. I used the 1k once and kept asking the owner if he was sure that it was a 1k as it felt way more coarse.

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    I like the plain Jane, old school , no frills king 1k. Inexpensive if you ever wear it out it inexpensive to replace, shop around ive seen it for less. There also a larger king approx 9x4x3 which would take years to wear out. I will slurry it to speed it up. Only draw back is it’s a soaker, may need to get re-soaked if long honing session. No warping or crazing issues.

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    The green brick gets my vote for mega amounts of honing. The monster King needs soaking and the Shaptons are thin. I use the Shapton glass myself but keep 2 nani pro 1k stones (green brick) in the drawer.
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    Again.... The green brick, in conjunction with the brown turd. (dressing stone ) as Naniwa calls it. Keeps things flat, as well as used as a slurry stone. Makes short work of bevel setting.....no lie.!!!

    I've bevel set hundreds, with it. And have only had to lap it twice while using the dressing stone.
    Well worth the few extra bucks, for longevity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesman7 View Post
    To me the most important property of a bevel setter is that you enjoy using it, because you will likely spend more time using it than the next three stones together.

    A lot of people like the 1.5k Kuromaku over the 1k. I used the 1k once and kept asking the owner if he was sure that it was a 1k as it felt way more coarse.
    I’m using the 1.5k Kuromaku instead of the 1k as well. I really appreciate its ability to avoid loading up as compared to the Chosera 1k.
    --Mark

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    Okay, thanks, all. Looks like the consensus leans toward the Chosera and I found one quite a bit cheaper than the $99 offer I first encountered, so I pulled the trigger. I did give the monster 4" wide King some thought, But really I went in to this thinking the Cerax would be the most likely candidate. I have one in 320 grit and it is overall a nice stone.

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    I still recommend the dressing stone, for the Naniwa. It keeps the surface clean of swarf, and like adding a super charger, to a already hot rod engine.
    Mike

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