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    So I have been using a 1-in stone for finishing. For quite a while I've wished that my synths were not combination stones so that I could use the side for honing blade with geometry problems like warps and uneven spine problems. I saw Norton among others make abrasive files and there are synthetic and natural options. It occured to me that maybe that is an option and I wondered if anyone used these for honing as I described or is this a fools errand?
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    On your combination stone try rounding the edges of the hone. But be careful with this technique. A very, very light touch is necessary because so little of the edge is in contact with the hone thus all the weight is on that small area . I started out by using a sheet of sandpaper wrapped around a piece of pipe (Single layer). It worked well until I got to the finer grits. Then the edge chipped out.
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    Now, when I have a warped blade, I just throw it away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by randydance062449 View Post
    Now, when I have a warped blade, I just throw it away.
    "A splendid principle"

    I can remember a few threads about this

    Paul I don't know how you hone but honing straight up & down the stone won't work & I don't recommend that anyway except on wakamisori
    Even on a 1" stone, at some point of the stroke, the blade geometry will prevent full contact so you must be doing an X-stroke.

    By carefully raising the toe a few thou' or even with full contact you can mostly work the blade on the stone's near edge. The bevels will never be even or pretty but hey, we're talking problem razors.

    You have to remember that the edge always follows the spine & as long as your stroke reflects that, a 3" wide stone works just fine.
    Of course you need a good chip free chamfer on the stone but that's a given.
    I think it was Gssixgun suggested drawing a 1" wide line on your 3" stone as a visual aid but it's not necessary if you understand the above .
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    Well, I guess I should say that my 1" stone is a hard ark that is finished on one side to 3k. What I do as far as stroke with it is a half x down and back in sets, starting with 10 then 7-5-3 & then 1 for about 200-300 then about 100 regular x strokes.
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    Thanks Randy. I pretty well figured that would be a danger with the 1/4"-1/2" of blade on the stone. I actually tried.it on a ceramic 1000 I have in a Lansky set with the rods and bevel bracket for knives. That stone is about 3/8" wide and it was a real trick to keep the blade flat.
    I'm not sure it is worth doing. It was more of a question of if it was a viable option.
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    Roy did a tread some time ago about drawing a line on his hone and just sticking with the one inch wide draw line. I have tried it and it seems to work but I don’t have a one inch wide hone to compare it to. Try it.
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    Not sure I understand The 1-in line on the stone exactly but I'll look it up
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulFLUS View Post
    Not sure I understand The 1-in line on the stone exactly but I'll look it up
    It's just a way of changing your focus from having the razor sit flat on the stone which it can't if it's warped anyway.
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    I use this type of honing also when it's needed. It just takes practice like anything else we do. The narrow stone is really not needed.
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