One razor that would absolutely not take an edge was an "A.JAX". I think that the razor was made with cheap Pakistani metal because it does not have made in solingen or sheffield anywhere on the blade. The other razor that has not yet taken an edge (and I don't think that it will) is a "Winchester" from an unknown maker in an unknown area. The steel in these razors is just not good enough to take an edge. If you see one of these razors DO NOT buy them. On a positive side note I think that I will be able to use the scales from the A.JAX on another razor because they do look nice.