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    Default Flattening barber hones

    Guys, I've posted this before, but I thought I'd remind everyone that I offer a barber-hone lapping service. I haven't had many takers on the offer, but I just lapped a hone today. It went so well that I wanted to mention again that I can save you a lot of hassle.

    When I was starting out, I tried lapping a few barber hones on wet-dry sandpaper, and it was horrible. These hones are very hard and I wore through a lot of sandpaper. It took hours.

    After I discovered the DMT hones, I found that my DMT 325 worked pretty well for lapping barber hones. It still took some time--maybe 30 minutes to an hour per hone.

    Then I found out that DMT makes a 120-grit hone. It's more expensive than the others, but I decided to get it just so I could offer this service at an affordable rate.

    Today I lapped a Robeson ShurEdge hone in no time flat. The 120-grit hone levels the surface, which is then polished on the 325-grit hone. I was really happy with how it turned out.

    So, the moral of the story... If you think you might end up getting a lot of barber hones, at least buy yourself a DMT 325, if not the 120-grit.

    If you just have a few hones to lap, $10 can save you a lot of frustration.

    Have a great day,
    Josh

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    Josh,

    Once these suckers are flat, do you find
    that they wear noticeably after a lot of
    use?

    (I don't own any... just curious )

    - Scott

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    Default Yeah, screw that!

    No barber hone lapping for me! I will send you everyone I ever come across man -
    I was hosting a newbie in my make shift shop, took his little barber hones, and thought, "what the hell, lets just use the Norton lapping stone to lap these buggers.." I think one was a fine black from RedTrader.

    Well long story short, the hone is much smaller than the Norton, and I effectively created a lapping *bowl* out of my Norton - seriously, I made the damn thing concave - I was amazed, and didn't realize it until I tried to use the lapper to lap a Norton 4000, and I couldn't get those cross hatched lines to go away in the center! Moral: don't use Norton lapping stone, or any stone you really want to keep that *isn't diamond* on a barber hone. Just my experience, YMMV.

    K

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    Barber hones are so hard that I can't imagine ever needing to lap one again unless you literally used it every day for years and years. I haven't used a barber hone that much, but my coticule is a lot softer and it has worn very little with constant heavy use.

    I debated on starting this thread because I didn't want it to be too much of a commercial. This hone flattening thing for me is really more of a public service than a money-making scheme. I've been there with trying to flatten these things, and once I found the 120-grit DMT I thought it made sense for one person to spend $90 on it rather than a bunch of guys buying one. It's not too useful for much else.

    Josh

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshEarl View Post
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    I debated on starting this thread because I didn't want it to be too much of a commercial. This hone flattening thing for me is really more of a public service than a money-making scheme. I've been there with trying to flatten these things, and once I found the 120-grit DMT I thought it made sense for one person to spend $90 on it rather than a bunch of guys buying one. It's not too useful for much else.

    Josh
    I see it as more of a service than a commercial. Too bad we cant "sticky" your offer under a "Services/Suppliers" thread maybe. (Great way to list Honemeisters, too)

    If I hadn't bought a 325 DMT myself for my super-hard Spydercos, I would've mailed you my Swaty. Instead I used the Swaty and DMT to "break each other in". I tried to lap the Swaty on 400 wet/dry paper and glass...very un-fun to do.

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    I thank you for posting your service and the need for this.
    Thanks
    Tom

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    This needs to be made into a sticky!

    Josh, your a saint for offering this service. Barber hones and some of the other hones are a pure SOB to lap flat on sandpaper. Been there, done that! I also have been toying with the idea of a DMT XC for all of my hones that need lapping.

    Hmmm... maybe a surface grinder with a diamond wheel would pay for itself?...... ( I love to justify toys!)
    Randolph Tuttle, a SRP Mentor for residents of Minnesota & western Wisconsin

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    Quote Originally Posted by randydance062449 View Post
    Hmmm... maybe a surface grinder with a diamond wheel would pay for itself?...... ( I love to justify toys!)
    Not sure this would pan out.... I mean, sure! Of course it would!

    You could probably put that surface grinder to good use in other ways, though...

    Josh

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshEarl View Post
    Guys, I've posted this before, but I thought I'd remind everyone that I offer a barber-hone lapping service. I haven't had many takers on the offer, but I just lapped a hone today. It went so well that I wanted to mention again that I can save you a lot of hassle.
    Hmmm... I wonder who's it could have been

    Was the attached cushioned strop a problem? You had said that it might make things a little tricky. Based on the above, I'm guessing it did not play into it too much!

    (Oh, the scale swap is on it's way).

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    Yep, it was the cushion strop hone.

    I figured out a way to lap it without any problems. I was kind of proud of myself, actually. What I did was put the DMT in a little basin of water so that the water just barely covered the surface of the diamond hone. Then I could lap to my heart's content without getting the leather side wet. It worked great.

    I took the liberty of working on the leather side a bit afterwards. It was cupped and slick with gunk, so I cleaned it with lather, pumiced it and applied some conditioner. I think it might actually work as a strop now.

    Josh

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