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Thread: Flattening barber hones
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01-23-2008, 08:15 PM #1
Flattening barber hones
Guys, I've posted this before, but I thought I'd remind everyone that I offer a barber-hone lapping service. I haven't had many takers on the offer, but I just lapped a hone today. It went so well that I wanted to mention again that I can save you a lot of hassle.
When I was starting out, I tried lapping a few barber hones on wet-dry sandpaper, and it was horrible. These hones are very hard and I wore through a lot of sandpaper. It took hours.
After I discovered the DMT hones, I found that my DMT 325 worked pretty well for lapping barber hones. It still took some time--maybe 30 minutes to an hour per hone.
Then I found out that DMT makes a 120-grit hone. It's more expensive than the others, but I decided to get it just so I could offer this service at an affordable rate.
Today I lapped a Robeson ShurEdge hone in no time flat. The 120-grit hone levels the surface, which is then polished on the 325-grit hone. I was really happy with how it turned out.
So, the moral of the story... If you think you might end up getting a lot of barber hones, at least buy yourself a DMT 325, if not the 120-grit.
If you just have a few hones to lap, $10 can save you a lot of frustration.
Have a great day,
Josh
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01-23-2008, 08:42 PM #2
Josh,
Once these suckers are flat, do you find
that they wear noticeably after a lot of
use?
(I don't own any... just curious )
- Scott
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01-23-2008, 10:44 PM #3
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No barber hone lapping for me! I will send you everyone I ever come across man -
I was hosting a newbie in my make shift shop, took his little barber hones, and thought, "what the hell, lets just use the Norton lapping stone to lap these buggers.." I think one was a fine black from RedTrader.
Well long story short, the hone is much smaller than the Norton, and I effectively created a lapping *bowl* out of my Norton - seriously, I made the damn thing concave - I was amazed, and didn't realize it until I tried to use the lapper to lap a Norton 4000, and I couldn't get those cross hatched lines to go away in the center! Moral: don't use Norton lapping stone, or any stone you really want to keep that *isn't diamond* on a barber hone. Just my experience, YMMV.
K
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01-23-2008, 11:04 PM #4
Barber hones are so hard that I can't imagine ever needing to lap one again unless you literally used it every day for years and years. I haven't used a barber hone that much, but my coticule is a lot softer and it has worn very little with constant heavy use.
I debated on starting this thread because I didn't want it to be too much of a commercial. This hone flattening thing for me is really more of a public service than a money-making scheme. I've been there with trying to flatten these things, and once I found the 120-grit DMT I thought it made sense for one person to spend $90 on it rather than a bunch of guys buying one. It's not too useful for much else.
Josh
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01-24-2008, 01:03 AM #5
I see it as more of a service than a commercial. Too bad we cant "sticky" your offer under a "Services/Suppliers" thread maybe. (Great way to list Honemeisters, too)
If I hadn't bought a 325 DMT myself for my super-hard Spydercos, I would've mailed you my Swaty. Instead I used the Swaty and DMT to "break each other in". I tried to lap the Swaty on 400 wet/dry paper and glass...very un-fun to do.
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01-24-2008, 03:48 AM #6
I thank you for posting your service and the need for this.
Thanks
Tom
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01-24-2008, 01:00 PM #7
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Josh, your a saint for offering this service. Barber hones and some of the other hones are a pure SOB to lap flat on sandpaper. Been there, done that! I also have been toying with the idea of a DMT XC for all of my hones that need lapping.
Hmmm... maybe a surface grinder with a diamond wheel would pay for itself?...... ( I love to justify toys!)Randolph Tuttle, a SRP Mentor for residents of Minnesota & western Wisconsin
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01-24-2008, 01:01 PM #8
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01-24-2008, 05:37 PM #9
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01-25-2008, 01:08 PM #10
Yep, it was the cushion strop hone.
I figured out a way to lap it without any problems. I was kind of proud of myself, actually. What I did was put the DMT in a little basin of water so that the water just barely covered the surface of the diamond hone. Then I could lap to my heart's content without getting the leather side wet. It worked great.
I took the liberty of working on the leather side a bit afterwards. It was cupped and slick with gunk, so I cleaned it with lather, pumiced it and applied some conditioner. I think it might actually work as a strop now.
Josh