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    I have a W&B I got from a flea market a while ago and restored it. I set the bevel and used a marker to be sure that I have even honing...But the toe easily pops hair and the middle of the blade is not able to do that. From what I see with the sharpie there shouldn't be any difference but i can feel it.

    I just reset the bevel on one of my other razors that was shaving suckie and is now performing perfectly with even sharpness throughout. So in conclusion I'm confused.

    Any ideas what's going on?
    thanks

    erik

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    Erik,

    Is the W&B a heavy grind, like a wedge or a quarter hollow? Those just take a lot more work. You probably still don't have the bevels quite right.

    Try a conservative pyramid or two, with a test shave in there somewhere. If that doesn't do it, go back to the 4K and work the edge some more.

    Sometimes the marker will get wiped off the sides of the bevel but the veeeeery edge is still rounded. You need to work past that rounding to get a clean edge.

    Good luck,
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    I agree with Josh and would add that you need to rely upon the TNT to determine if you have a good bevel for the full length of the blade. The magic marker test will not tell you that. Also use a sharply angled X pattern stroke that brings the razor almost all the way off the bottom of the hone.


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    This thread should answer your question:
    http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?t=31640

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    i have been doing both tests, I just get nervous that I'm removing too much metal using it on my DMT 1200. It was a 10$ razor so I'm just expecting to learn how to restore poor edges. I had to start with my D8C because there was a decent sized chip in the edge, so I'm just hoping to get it working now!

    I feel like I'm going to be doing too many passes and honing too much but from what I can see magnified and feel with the TPT and TNT it's not getting overhoned. Maybe I've just been spoiled by having only new razors up until now! I will report back in a day or two when I get further with this.

    I hope it doesn't sound too much like i need my hand held through this, but it makes me feel better for my first honing restoration!

    thanks guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by duntz View Post
    i have been doing both tests, I just get nervous that I'm removing too much metal using it on my DMT 1200. It was a 10$ razor so I'm just expecting to learn how to restore poor edges. I had to start with my D8C because there was a decent sized chip in the edge, so I'm just hoping to get it working now!

    I feel like I'm going to be doing too many passes and honing too much but from what I can see magnified and feel with the TPT and TNT it's not getting overhoned. Maybe I've just been spoiled by having only new razors up until now! I will report back in a day or two when I get further with this.

    I hope it doesn't sound too much like i need my hand held through this, but it makes me feel better for my first honing restoration!

    thanks guys!
    You can't count passes in the early bevel creation stages, you have to hone it until the razor is as sharp as a very sharp knife from heal to toe on the low grits. In my experience it will likely take several hundred passes to get a very dull razor sharp, so you are not overhoning. Just keep going until it is sharp, don't worry about the passes or overhoning at this stage.

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    I recently honed my great grandfather's razor.
    Under magnification it had a bevel on both ends
    of the razor, but not in the middle. It took
    several hundred passes to get an even bevel
    across the razor, and I didn't overhone it.

    John

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