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    Default Thuringian stone vs coticule

    How do they compare? What are their grits?
    I have a Norton 4K/8K and need a finishing stone. My purchase will be guided by your recommendation. Thanks in advance.

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    Grits of stones depend on the quarry that they came out of so this is only a guide but the blue coticule is generally said to be in the 4-6K range while the yellow coticule is generally said to be in the 8-10K range. Thuringen stones vary greatly but are generally a little bit finer than a yellow coticule.
    Given that you have a Norton, I would highly recommend a yellow coticule as your next stone. Many folks use this as their final polishing stone. You can get a very reasonable price for the quality stone at The Perfect Edge.
    Cheers,

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    Thuringen hones are a bit finer than coticules. As a rule of thumb: the finer the smaller. The really large and fine Thuringen hones were selected by comapnies like Escher and fetch a fortune on ebay.

    If you don't use a pasted strop after coticule ore Thuringian you'll notice the difference, if you do the difference is irrelevant IMHO.
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    Both the coticule and the thuringen/escher are very good natural finishing stones that result in a sharp, comfortable shaving edge.
    But for the finest edge I prefer the chinese 12,000 available from woodcraft.com. It is very inexpensive and a massive stone. It is also slower cutting than either of the other two. 100 laps are my minimum on this stone.

    You would not go wrong with either of the three.

    Just my two cents,
    Randolph Tuttle, a SRP Mentor for residents of Minnesota & western Wisconsin

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    Randy,

    Have you ever tried the Nakayama after coticule/Thuringen or 12K natural Chinese? That makes a huge difference IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by randydance062449 View Post
    Both the coticule and the thuringen/escher are very good natural finishing stones that result in a sharp, comfortable shaving edge.
    But for the finest edge I prefer the chinese 12,000 available from woodcraft.com. It is very inexpensive and a massive stone. It is also slower cutting than either of the other two. 100 laps are my minimum on this stone.

    You would not go wrong with either of the three.

    Just my two cents,
    Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr.

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    I would recommend a different approach, because my OCD oriented brain can't handle not knowing the exact grit of natural stones...
    The Shapton 16k is a fantastic finishing stone IMHO

    Just another thought ......

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    Kees...Thanks but I have never tried the Nakayama. Do you have a link?

    Glen.... I have heard that the Shaptons are very good but I want to stay with natural hones for finishing if possible. But I do cheat and use the 0.5 chrome ox at the end!
    Randolph Tuttle, a SRP Mentor for residents of Minnesota & western Wisconsin

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    Quote Originally Posted by randydance062449 View Post
    Kees...Thanks but I have never tried the Nakayama. Do you have a link?

    Glen.... I have heard that the Shaptons are very good but I want to stay with natural hones for finishing if possible. But I do cheat and use the 0.5 chrome ox at the end!
    Just scroll down and drool!

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    Thanks Kees. I should have added that the price needs to be affordable and the stock widely available for most of our new guys.

    But it sure was nice looking and dreaming!
    Randolph Tuttle, a SRP Mentor for residents of Minnesota & western Wisconsin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kees View Post
    Errrrr........Ahhhhhh...I've....ahhh.got one in transit from So Yamashita as we speak. I couldn't resist.

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