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    Default Shapton Hones - Glassstones

    I ordered the following direct from Sharpton to be delivered:

    6000 grit
    8000 grit
    16000 grit
    Diamond Lapping plate


    From what I have read this should be plenty along with some CROx and possibly the use of diamond paste. Has anyone else used this setup? Any ideas on if I need to buy any other stones such as a japanese 12,000?


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    This should be plenty, but I would have put more of a jump before the 8000. I'm not a Norton user/fan, but the 4000/8000 combination is a good jump. Typically, doubling grit or halving micron size is a good standard for honing progressions. If you could call and have the order changed, I would.

    If not, no biggie. It'll take more passes on the 6k to do what the 4k would, but it'll still do it just fine.

    I think you should be okay going from the 8k to the 16k. If shapton felt like you would need an intermediate stone, they would have made it! It's all about removing the scratch pattern left from the previous stone.

    You could go two ways - you can remove 8k scratches and replace them with 12k, then remove 12k scratches and replace them with 16k, Or, remove 8k scratches and replace them with 16k. Either way, you're left with 16k scratches.

    I think that you should hold what you've got, get proficient at honing with your current progression, then think about buying other stones. The chromium oxide is a good idea to smooth things out and to use for touchups.

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    I would add a 1 or a 2K for removing micro chips and a 4K. Nice setup you have there. You are ready for anything.
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    That is a really nice system. I am green with envy for those shapton stones. Some day when the budget is bigger.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyH-AD View Post
    I would add a 1 or a 2K for removing micro chips and a 4K. Nice setup you have there. You are ready for anything.
    Agree 100%. I have a 3K and just added a 2K for times when more material needs to be removed. The Lapping plate makes a big difference, you'll be glad you bought it.

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    Sweet setup. You wouldn't need the Cromium Oxide with the 16K shapton.
    The only thing I'd do differently is use a 4K instead of the 6K.
    and perhaps a 1K for when I need to remove a lot of metal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    Sweet setup. You wouldn't need the Cromium Oxide with the 16K shapton.
    The only thing I'd do differently is use a 4K instead of the 6K.
    and perhaps a 1K for when I need to remove a lot of metal.
    Bruno:

    I always finish an edge by stropping on chrome ox dusted newspaper and find it does improve the Shapton 16K edges. I agree with you that it's not NECESSARY, but it provides an even more comfortable shaving edge and with the 16K, it's......S H A R P!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben325e View Post
    This should be plenty, but I would have put more of a jump before the 8000. I'm not a Norton user/fan, but the 4000/8000 combination is a good jump. Typically, doubling grit or halving micron size is a good standard for honing progressions. If you could call and have the order changed, I would.

    If not, no biggie. It'll take more passes on the 6k to do what the 4k would, but it'll still do it just fine.

    I think you should be okay going from the 8k to the 16k. If shapton felt like you would need an intermediate stone, they would have made it! It's all about removing the scratch pattern left from the previous stone.

    You could go two ways - you can remove 8k scratches and replace them with 12k, then remove 12k scratches and replace them with 16k, Or, remove 8k scratches and replace them with 16k. Either way, you're left with 16k scratches.

    I think that you should hold what you've got, get proficient at honing with your current progression, then think about buying other stones. The chromium oxide is a good idea to smooth things out and to use for touchups.
    Thanks guys. Good feedback. I should have metioned that I have a 4000/8000 Norton combo plus a Swaty but have never been able to get great results off that combo. I also have a 1000 grit Global stone. I will give these Shaptons a go and from what I have read they seem to be the best system out there.

    As always you advice is much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seniorbrucio View Post
    Thanks guys. Good feedback. I should have metioned that I have a 4000/8000 Norton combo plus a Swaty but have never been able to get great results off that combo. I also have a 1000 grit Global stone. I will give these Shaptons a go and from what I have read they seem to be the best system out there.

    As always you advice is much appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris L View Post
    Bruno:

    I always finish an edge by stropping on chrome ox dusted newspaper and find it does improve the Shapton 16K edges. I agree with you that it's not NECESSARY, but it provides an even more comfortable shaving edge and with the 16K, it's......S H A R P!!

    Chris L
    Interesting. is it sharpeness or smoothness that improves with the Crox?
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