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    Quote Originally Posted by tsenfw View Post
    Never even held a wedge in my hands, so I don't really have a concept as to how long they take to hone.
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    One more point for taping the spine, which I do, unless asked specifically not to, by the razor owner, and yes it says exactly how the razor was honed in the letter I return with the razor... How about hone wear????? this is something that is not brought up often but it is there, and even if you're not concerned with wear, think about the swarf deposited by the spine on the hone ..... Yes there are other advantages to taping the spine other than just asthetics... I understand that hone wear/cleaning is not a huge concern to the average razor user but to those of us that hone many razors, it becomes a concern.......

    Just my 2 pennies

    One other thought is on that old hone worn razor, if you tape it, you eliminate many of the honing problems that somebody else managed to put in there over the years, and cut a fresh straight/even new bevel....
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    Good points, Glen. Thanks for adding them as I wasn't thinking of things from those perspectives. I also think it's great that you do tell users how exactly you honed their razors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris L View Post
    Good points, Glen. Thanks for adding them as I wasn't thinking of things from those perspectives. I also think it's great that you do tell users how exactly you honed their razors.

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    When I first came around to SRP I put up a poll ,"do you tape the spine"? I wanted to do it 'right' and figured I would see what the general consensus was. In the meanwhile I was buying ebay razors left and right to practice honing. At first I taped some and not others. It wasn't long before I found trying to recall which I had taped and which I had not became a PITA.

    So I decided to tape all of them and that was that. So far so good. There are a few memebers who have strong feelings against taping spines. I figure that if Tim Zowada can take a thousand dollar razor start with 3 layers of tape and finish with one it ain't gonna hurt my razor to use one layer. Different strokes for different folks.
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    So is the spine designed to be a particular width to achieve a specific angle to the edge when honing? If so, then wouldn't you want the spine to get thinner as the edge moves into the blade? I'm thinking that eventually a 5/8 blade will become a 4/8 blade with enough honing. To maintain the same edge angle you would want a thinner spine... anything to that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quick View Post
    So is the spine designed to be a particular width to achieve a specific angle to the edge when honing? If so, then wouldn't you want the spine to get thinner as the edge moves into the blade? I'm thinking that eventually a 5/8 blade will become a 4/8 blade with enough honing. To maintain the same edge angle you would want a thinner spine... anything to that?
    Yes, to maintain the same angle the spine would need to thin as the razor was honed down from 5/8 to 4/8. I guess that would be the natural out growth of hone wear although I doubt it would happen at precisely the right rate to preserve the edge geometry. Personally, I would call that a worn out razor and move on.

    If you look at razors from the same maker in different sizes you will see that the smaller blades are generally thinner through the spine than the big blades. Same geometric concept you are describing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quick View Post
    So is the spine designed to be a particular width to achieve a specific angle to the edge when honing? If so, then wouldn't you want the spine to get thinner as the edge moves into the blade? I'm thinking that eventually a 5/8 blade will become a 4/8 blade with enough honing. To maintain the same edge angle you would want a thinner spine... anything to that?
    Maybe so if you had one or two razors and did an awful lot of honing over many years. I for example have about a hundred of them. Once I get them sharp it is a long time before one sees a hone again. Also with all of the ebay specials I do a lot of honing to get rid of the chips and set the bevel. Not using tape would leave inordinate wear on the spine IMO. Also the thickness of a piece of electrical tape is really minimal.
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    Even in the scenario that you just described the angle difference would be at the most 1 degree, and considering that most razors range from 13-18 degrees that small change would not effect it .... In fact if you do some thinking on how the angles are both changing it might actually improve the strength of the edge

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyH-AD View Post
    Not using tape would leave inordinate wear on the spine IMO.
    No more than the wear on the edge you're repairing right?

    Also the thickness of a piece of electrical tape is really minimal.
    I wasn't thinking of changing the angle so much with the tape but that the tape gets replaced each time as the edge gets worn/closer to the spine.

    I don't know anything about razors so I guess my question is if spine thickness is part of the design specifically to achieve a particular angle on the edge when honing.
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