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    Default How are E-Bay Coticules?

    I have been looking at some of the hones on E-Bay but I am a little worried about the grade. I bet it is easy to get burned. I would also like a 1.5" X 6" or 8" .

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    I've not come across anyone who's taken the risk yet. They may be great, but without seeing them up close i couldn't say. Are they much cheaper than the classifieds & Rob at Ardennes?

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    I got one barber hone coticul;e off ebay. Great little hone! I also just won another ebay coticule. I'll find out about the quality when it gets here.

    But the grade of the hone is not whats important, no, it's owning them, and admiring there beauty, and...HAD? Me? Nah.

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    I think it depends on the stone and who is selling the stone.

    In a recent search I found an ebay store called best sharpening stones. They seem to have a bunch of them. A little cheaper than I've seen so far. I don't know about the quality. They have some dmts and others, too. They make a few references to straight razors, so there is a chance.

    eBay Store - Best Sharpening Stones: Belgian Stone, Hone, Whetstone

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    I wrote the Best Sharpening Stone guy and he assured me they were all "Select" but my problem is I do not know enough about them. Are there different grades within "Select"? Things like that. They certainly look good! I feel myself getting sucked into another AD!



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    I have had the HAD and ended up with a dozen coticules. Ain't a bad one in the bunch. Some are better then others. What I have found out, tentatively anyway, is that there is not necessarily any difference between a vintage or a recently mined coticule.

    I say not necessarily meaning that there may be a difference in color, grade and of course performance but they will both be sedimentary rock formed eons ago regardless of when they were dug out of the ground and processed.

    My best one is an 8X3 natural that came from Howard at the Perfect Edge and he got it from Rob at Ardennes. Rob grades them kosher, select and standard. The kosher is only graded as such for cosmetic reasons. It is a pure light yellow in color with no imperfections. The performance potential doesn't enter into the grading. They are significantly more expensive especially if it is a larger rock. My 8x2 is a good hard finisher.

    I will stick my neck out and say that for one purpose or another a standard may outperform a select depending on what the end user needs it for. Rob will tell you that some coticules are more suited to razors while others are a better bet for woodworking tools and such. At least that is the way I understand it from reading about them. If you order directly from him you can request a coticule to suit your specific needs.

    I used to think that a vintage coticule would be better then the currently mined stuff and individually you may find one that is but it could easily be the other way around like my 8x3. Since Rob has the only mine currently operating that is harvesting coticules if you find a seller on ebay or elsewhere carrying coticules unless it is a vintage piece it originated from Rob's mine. At least that is my best guess.
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    That store on ebay mentions ardennes a few times. You might be right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycliff200843 View Post
    These hones (as a matter of fact ALL Coticule hones quarried the last +15 years) come from us, Ardennes Coticule.
    We are the sole producer of these hones world wide!

    So you can be 100% sure to get a good hone!

    eBay Store - Best Sharpening Stones: Belgian Stone, Hone, Whetstone

    PS: we are not related with this eBay seller, all I can say is that the stones come from us!
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
    there is not necessarily any difference between a vintage or a recently mined coticule.
    Exactly!

    Rob grades them kosher, select and standard. The kosher is only graded as such for cosmetic reasons. It is a pure light yellow in color with no imperfections. The performance potential doesn't enter into the grading. (Exactly!) They are significantly more expensive especially if it is a larger rock. My 8x2 is a good hard finisher.

    I will stick my neck out and say that for one purpose or another a standard may outperform a select depending on what the end user needs it for. (Exactly!) Rob will tell you that some coticules are more suited to razors while others are a better bet for woodworking tools and such. At least that is the way I understand it from reading about them. If you order directly from him you can request a coticule to suit your specific needs.

    I used to think that a vintage coticule would be better then the currently mined stuff and individually you may find one that is but it could easily be the other way around like my 8x3. Since Rob has the only mine currently operating that is harvesting coticules if you find a seller on ebay or elsewhere carrying coticules unless it is a vintage piece it originated from Rob's mine. At least that is my best guess. (Exactly!)

    Sorry for my short answer to this but I'm incredible short on time lately!
    We are restarting the quarry after winter to extract new Coticule and other rocks.
    But yesterday winter came back, the quarry is covered with 15cm snow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdennesCoticule View Post
    Sorry for my short answer to this but I'm incredible short on time lately!
    We are restarting the quarry after winter to extract new Coticule and other rocks.
    But yesterday winter came back, the quarry is covered with 15cm snow.
    Damn that Mother Nature anyways!

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    Thanks guys. I ordered one and if you like will send pics if you want. My first so, we shall see. I got a 2X6 with slurry stone and can't wait.

    Thanks again,
    Richard

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