Thread: Any Ideas?

Guys... I am really reall really sorry to start another honing thread. Just hoping you have some suggestions to give me a little push...

I have a full set of nortons and a dmt 600/1200/8000.

I get the same results on either set, just the dmt gets there faster.


The bevel looks good. i can cut hair, shave my hand, etc... But i just cant seem to get my razors to "Hair Popping Sharp".

I was able to do it once...with the very first razor i honed, a wapi. Well.. i recently got another wapi and cannot seem to get it as sharp either.

All my razors are getting stuck at "Almost there".

I would say try a polishing stone of 10K grit or higher and see what happens. You also may want to just try pasting with some .5 diamond something or chromium oxide, strop and see what happens.

Lynn

do you use chro2 after 8 k?
will help a lot.
"Hair Popping Sharp" this sharpness you should get easy by using norton 8k. The problem is in that stage your razor isn't shave ready condition. it will be ready when hair will fall down silently without popping.

in the other hand this is why people buys
Nakayama, escher's etc.

^what they said.

i.e. Add a barber hone and/or a 0.5 paste or honing film.

Sorry. i have a chinese 12k and .5 CrO i also use. i just cant seem to get to the 'hair popping" stage at the 8k level.

It will cut, using the 12k/CrO makes big improvements. but not HHT passing sharpness or just popping hairs as i go above m skin.

When guys stop over to my home for a honing session the two constants that I notice is that they all have a honing stroke that is both to fast and that they do not pay attention to the distribution of weight on the blade.

On an 8" hone I take about 1 second to go down the length of the hone, flip the razor, then another 1 second for the return stroke.

Distribution of weight... I put "torque" on the tang so that there is about a 60/40 distribution of weight, edge 60% /spine 40%. Most guys do not pay attention to that.

They also do not watch the water flow in front of the edge from heel to toe.

Slow down, watch the water flow and have slightly more pressure on the edge than on the spine.

Hope this helps,

Originally Posted by randydance062449

Distribution of weight... I put "torque" on the tang so that there is about a 60/40 distribution of weight, edge 60% /spine 40%. Most guys do not pay attention to that.

I have never, ever, given any thought to this. I would guess that I use no torque but I will certainly have to see how torquing the blade feels.

Use only the amount of torque necessary to keep the water from flowing UNDER the blade edge. If you can watch the water flow from heel to toe in front of the edge then you are using enough "torque".

Hope this helps,

Originally Posted by randydance062449

They also do not watch the water flow in front of the edge from heel to toe.

Slow down, watch the water flow
Hope this helps,

Originally Posted by randydance062449

If you can watch the water flow from heel to toe in front of the edge then you are using enough "torque".

Hope this helps,

Hmmmmm Randy must have meant to say that a few times for a reason....

You have to simply make sure that the entire edge slides across the hone evenly and equally to get the most out of that hone....

Watching that ripple of water is the easiest way of doing that...

Normally if you need more "Sharp" out of a razor you need to back off on the hone light, lght, touch on the final grits.....

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Normally if you need more "Sharp" out of a razor you need to back off on the hone light, lght, touch on the final grits.....

Glen, thanks for emphasis on the light touch. One of the problems about talking about "torque" is that people equate that with excessive pressure.
That is not my intent. What I am trying to get across is that most new guys do not pay attention to the water flowing in front of the edge. They are actually allowing the water to flow under the edge and thus the contact of the edge on the hone is compromised and they just end up spending a lot of time on the hone with no results.

The use of the word "torque" came from a discussion I had with a mechanical engineer when I was helping him sort out his honing difficulties. Perhaps using a term like "favor", as in "favor the edge more than the spine" ? or " make sure you can see the water flow in front of the edge, from heel to toe, not under the edge, while performing the honing stroke" ?


Ok, back to my first cup of coffee,