I have some of the SunTiger stones in my collection of whetstones and they are good, inexpensive artificial waterstones. They are a bit small for str8 honing but it can be done. I sell a 4" x 1.2" belgian coticule which is a true 8000 grit stone for $25 on my site at www.theperfectedge.com. I always recommend experimenting with honing and different stones before you decide to go with the belgians as they have some significant advantages. First, they're NOT porous so they don't load. All the honing action takes place on the surface. Second, the garnet slurry cuts fast and polishes the edge to a shine. Third, they're generally lifetime stones.

Howard