Thread: Coticule and what i think

Originally Posted by gregs656

I guess in a way I'm lucky that I have nothing to compare it too,

Bingo excellent point.
You don't know what do you miss. if you have never tried anything else how can you (doesn't matter me ) could make comparison?
Go head get high grit hones and hone couple blades and compare the edge then you will talk differently.

Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

Bingo excellent point.
You don't know what do you miss. if you have never tried anything else how can you (doesn't matter me ) could make comparison?
Go head get high grit hones and hone couple blades and compare the edge then you will talk differently.

That may or may not be true, and I would like a higher grit hone anyway. I have used razors that have been finished a few different ways, and I think the edge I got of the coticule is pretty damn comparable.

I can get a BBS, irritation free, nick free shave off a coticule - that suits me. It is only curiosity and price that tempts me into getting a higher grit, and odds on I will just get paste.

Originally Posted by Chimensch

I'm just saying that if you start with a shave ready razor, you can maintain it with a barbers hone or a coticule. Why is that controversial?

not for my face
I've gotten shave ready razors form 3 members, two were honemeisters
2 of the three were nowhere near sharp enough
I'm not going to name them, and I'm not complaining
I can't get my own sharp enough for me either without paste

Originally Posted by Lynn

You are trying to get in the middle. Sorry. And you know it. Many of our members do not buy new razors right off the bat and if you are not clear as you were above, they see that you are successful with a barber hone they buy one. Sorry again, but you are giving your opinion above about what you think something will do and not your personal preference.

There is no controversy in this matter other than what you are making of it.

Thanks,

Lynn

I actually started honing on barber hones I got from Tilly and kept using them until just this week.
Ebay specials even. (plus sandpaper)

Originally Posted by OLD_SCHOOL

Many people get themselves great edges and shaves from a coticule. I however have never experienced this. Several razors I have tried from members experiences with honing, we no match for my beard, couldn't even give me one pass without enduring pain and burn.

THANK GOD SOMEONE ELSE SAID IT!!

this whole time I thought my honing sucked
I bought a microscope
hones
and hones
and paste and BAM!

I can only shave off .5 diamond or cr02
I CAN NOT SHAVE OFF A COTICULE
PERIOD
no ifs, no ands, no buts

and I sure as hell can't shave off a barber hone
the ONLY exceptions are a green coticule or escher (not sure what it is)
and an old wedge off a Swaty
but only a couple of razors of the green one and only one off the Swaty
that is 3-4 out of more than 500 I have handled

Most of us who have been doing this for any length of time probably started before this site existed and without any mentoring of any kind. We either bought what we thought was a "good" razor off Eboy or bought a high dollar TI or Dovo we thought would be shave ready. Then we found out we had problems. Then we started buying all kinds of vintage hones and pasted strops and sand paper and films and new hones and natural hones and you name it including honing during a full moon and during the solstice and crawled our way from one to another until we figured out which hone worked and which didn't and what techniques we had to learn and which razor seemed to prefer one thing over another.

My point here is everyone wants the ultimate solution, the perfect formula and they want it now and they want it easy. "well son just buy hone x and do x strokes and you will have the ultimate in sharpness before you know it".

There is no easy solution. You need to learn and you need to figure out for yourself which hone or hones give you the result you need given your skills, the condition of your razor and your patience.

We can help you by nudging you in the right direction but ultimately it's up to you. If this thing was as easy as pie we wouldn't need honemeisters and restorers and guys like Glen and Lynn would be working in the tool dept. at their local Home Depot.

So for anyone to make any claims about any hone is just one guys opinion and it might be very valid for him but may be invalid for you. Many opinions about a hone may be more valid or it may not be.

Just things to think about.

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

My point here is everyone wants the ultimate solution, the perfect formula and they want it now and they want it easy. "well son just buy hone x and do x strokes and you will have the ultimate in sharpness before you know it".
There is no easy solution. You need to learn and you need to figure out for yourself which hone or hones give you the result you need given your skills, the condition of your razor and your patience.

Thank you, Thank you !!!!!
Huge plus 1 here