Thread: Clarification needed on NOS Thuringens

Sooooooooo... there are a bunch of NOS Thuringens floating around- can someone tell me if they are all the same or which are true Thuringens and which are not?
So there's MST: MST - Müller Schleiftechnik (Click neuprodukte), where I believe the Naturwasserabziehsteine are Hunsbruecke, not Thuringens. Okay. Straight forward.

Then there's Kees's stones: http://straightrazorpalace.com/hone-...huringian.html Good reviews, still straight forward.
Now here's where it gets complicated. Kees says the two Muellers are different companies. So now, can anyone tell me about the following stones, and which Mueller they might be from?

Toolshop.de: Toolshop - Natürlicher Wasser-Abziehstein - fein 292715
Bessermesser:Deluxe Wasserabziehstein - Körnung 6000 - TOP-Preis
Timber Tools: Original Escher Stone - Sharpening Stone from Germany (I know that the Eschers are actually just Thuringens, but I'm looking more at the bigger stones advertised as Thuringens)

Now, my main question is, while all of the stones are Mueller, I have been in correspondence with MST and they have confirmed that Kees's reviewed Mueller is a different company, so where are the last three companies getting their stones from? (I would like to buy one of the stones that Kees sold and was reviewed here, second link)

You have to understand, these are all ROCKS from a particular region of Germany. They are all probably adequate hones, though some of them might be great and some of them might have inclusions that make them crap. You are taking a gamble. If someone highly recommends a hone from a particular company, then you MIGHT end up with a similarly great hone if yours was cut from right next to the great one, but you might not. Each natural hone is unique, and so each is a gamble.