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06-19-2009, 11:09 PM #1
Progression on honing
i have seen a lot questions about progression while you hone the blade.
Generally everyone accept if you go from one grit to another by doubling the grit you should be ok. example. 4000k next go to 8k etc so on.
I have tried a little different progressions and i thought this will help.
i used 1k for set up then i used 3k japan hone then 4k then 8k norton next i went to Panama razor hone ,next i used 2,5 grit past then chromium oxide ,strop and check the blade.
By doing this i did get excellent result. what is important about this progression is i was not doubling the grit when i go from 1 to another.
As a result i did get end result faster then if i use doubling method. another good outcome is there is less space for mistake.
Problem in this method is
Too many hones.
Think about ,1k,3k,4k,8k,razor hone, pastes.
End result
By using too many hones you will less likely make a mistake and you will loose less time.
Again you will end up too many hones.
In above method i spend less then 1 minute on 4k.
if you guys have a different opinions shoot it.
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06-19-2009, 11:51 PM #2
I like your progression Sham. I use the 500 if I have a chip then progress 1K, 2K, 4K, 6K, 8K, 16K, 30K then CrO. I spend the most time on the lower grits getting the bevel set. I may have to get me a 12K just to see if it will fit in.
bjDon't go to the light. bj
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06-19-2009, 11:55 PM #3
BJ that(by that i mean your progression BJ)is excellent progression. hardest will be setting bevel as soon as you set bevel then you good to go.
that stones were available to me that is why i used in that order. i didn't have any 6 k or 12k to add in the middle.Last edited by hi_bud_gl; 06-20-2009 at 09:23 PM.
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06-20-2009, 12:09 AM #4
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Thanked: 13245So far in honing I have used a few progressions....
Norton 4k 8k (3in wide and 1.5 inch wide)
Norton 1k, 4k, 8k, - White Arkansas stone
Norton 1k, 4k, 8k - Yellow extra fine Coticule
Norton 1k,4k,8k - Shapton 16k
Norton 1k - Shapton 2k, 4k, 8k, 16k
Shapton 1k, 2k, 4k, 8k, 16k
Naniwa 1k, 3k, 5k, 8k, 10k, 12k
I have other bevel setters, and low grit repair stones and a few barbers hones but those are not part of any progression....
Pastes in my arsenal include:
Dovo - Red & black
Diamond paste .50 &.25 on leather
Diamond spray .50 & .25 on felt
CrOx on leather
CeOx on leather
I have no standard paste format, the only paste that I even think about being a universal one is the .50 CrOx I have never seen it have a bad reaction on a blade... I paste if, when, and how, I feel it is appropriateLast edited by gssixgun; 06-20-2009 at 12:13 AM.
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06-20-2009, 01:07 AM #5
My progression is fairly simple:
DMT 1200
Norton 4000
Norton 8000
Coticule w/water
Y/G Escher
I have a DMT 325 and 600 if I really needed anything coarser than the 1200, but haven't found the need yet.
I don't always finished on the escher as finishing with the coticule leaves a different feel that I like sometimes. I know doubling the grits is the best method and I've considered getting a hone around 2000 grit. But seeing as I don't hone all that often I don't really find it all that necessary as going from 1200 to 4000 isn't that big of a jump anyways.
Soon my progression will end with a Nakayama Maruichi.Last edited by StraightRazorDave; 06-20-2009 at 01:11 AM.
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06-20-2009, 02:20 AM #6
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06-20-2009, 02:26 AM #7
I use this about 95% of the time for a vintage or new razor:
- 1200 (9µ)
- 8000 (3µ)
- a barber hone (or Thuringian)
- newspaper
I have some coarser hones for heavier work.
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06-20-2009, 02:38 AM #8
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Thanked: 10My "new" progression (meaning I've only used it twice)
Norton 1k
Norton 4k
Norton 8k
Chinese 12k
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06-20-2009, 02:49 AM #9
Shem, I only disagree with one thing.... You can not have too many hones !
Assuming the blade needs the bevel set I usually do the DMT 1200 and then go to the Norton 4/8. Sometimes I do the Shapton professional series 1, 2 ,5, 8, 15 and rarely the 30k
I like hitting the 2k following the 1k. I really feel like it gives me a good head start before moving up.
Sometimes I do the 1200 or the shap 1&2 and then go to a bbw/slurry and then the yellow coticule with water. Sometimes Escher light green or yellow or blue green to finish. Depends on the blade and my mood.
If the bevel is good I would skip the bevel setters and might go synthetic or all natural stones. Again depends on what it is and how I feel about it. Intuitive stuff going on.
I only use pastes on blades I just can't seem to get sharp enough with the hones and stropping alone.Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.
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06-20-2009, 03:20 AM #10
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Thanked: 402I usually use a lot of hones and a small progression as well.
It varies, which ones I use.
Depending on the steel.