Thread: Dialing it in with a Naniwa?

Originally Posted by Razorburne

Glen & Utopian,

I just thought of a question about going back to the stones. I know from Lynn's experience he suggests approx. 10 laps and sometimes needs and additional 5-10 laps after that, so I have a rough idea of # of laps to use for the Naniwa. But......if I end up dropping back to the 8k in the future (in order to hit the last 2 stones I've honed with) then roughly how many laps should I attempt? I tend to use the pyramid when honing, so would I do approx. 5-10 on the 8k, as the last bit of the pyramid has you performing 5 laps on 8k?

any help would be great.

I hate giving exact numbers but yes, assuming you did the lower grits right, I'd say that you probably should stick with 10 laps or less when you go back down on the 8k. If that ends up not improving the edge adequately, then you might need to a lower grit.

When I use the 12k stone, I get a better edge, so now I include the 12k to the honeing steps. Since I have it, might as well use it. No regrets with the 12k. Juan.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

I am +1'n with Ron
I have a general rule that says "Use 2 when Re-Touching"
If you finished on a 8k then to re-touch you need the 4k then 8k that takes you back where you started from then add the 12k to the progression.. the same rule would apply next time after you return from the 12k you would drop to the 8k then the 12k and be back where you started from.... I do the same for Shaptons too re-touch would be the 8k and the 16k ..... so your re-touch would always be the last 2 stones that you used....

Thanks, Glen. How about if you finished with a paste?

If the razor is shaving OK off the 8K and pastes, but you want more, I would recommend the 10 strokes on the 12K Super, 10 strokes on either .5 diamond spray or crox, strop and test. If closer, but not quite there, you can either do another 5-10 strokes on the 12K Super, follow with the pastes or just go to the pastes and see what happens.

You can always go back to the 8K and even create a mini pyramid between the 8K and 12K to see what works for you.

Typically when I want to test a polishing stone to a razor that is shaving, I will not go backward to a lower grit stone. I want to feel the difference between where the razor is when starting and then after introducing the new media.

This was one of the things I was showing Glen and the guys in NC. We took a sharp razor and then tried to feel the TPT difference on the edge after each stone or media introduced. We used the Coticule, Escher, 12K Naniwa Super, Shapton 16K, Nakayama, Asagi, Shapton 30K, Yellowstone paste and diamond paste. There was a perceptible difference in feel with each. We only did 10 strokes on each I believe.

Have fun,

Lynn

Originally Posted by RayG

Thanks, Glen. How about if you finished with a paste?

We sorta have two discussions going on in this thread now, so lets clarify on this one Ray, Talking about re-touching the edge, I would still use the same rule, if I say finished the edge on the 16k and then .50 diamond and a flash of CrOx.. When I would take that razor in for a re-touch down the road, I would go back to the 8k then the 16k again... and use the pastes again if warranted..

This is for re-touches / re-freshes you might have used the CrOx 5 times before this point.. am I making sense???

You are Glen.

I understood you. I do not go back that far on re-touches routinely. I really look at it like a re-fresh and will normally try the pastes first as described or the final polishing hone(s) and then to pastes.

Tis a bootiful ting.

Lynn