Thread: Some easier to hone than others?

Originally Posted by Gunner777

Kees how much if any do you use on a large wedge? Just curious for yet another opinion.

How much of what?

Originally Posted by Kees

That destroys the edge! If you have an overhoned edge and strop it lightly on leather spine lifted 2-3 mm and then strop it as you always do your razor is shave-sharp! The way you propose necessitaties honing the edge again starting wit ha low grit hone.

Im not wanting to fuel a debate and I havent tried this, but I think the key words were "no pressure". If subsequent honing is necessary it should be very little. Besides its just one mans opinion.

For the most part, other than Timors and Fromms, I say rack 'em up........

The biggest problem with the wedges is that normally when we get them, they have 6 different spines and 6 different bevels on them and usually these are not consistent on both sides. So...........it takes a lot of time to work through all the prior damage and get to a consistent bevel. Tape or with out tape, these are simply a lot more work. Once you get to a nice bevel, you are there. Now if you're worried about how they are going to look, you might as well find someone who will regrind them for you...........

Now having said this a lot of times honing any razor has to do with the prior wear it has seen.

Lynn

Originally Posted by nun2sharp

Im not wanting to fuel a debate and I havent tried this, but I think the key words were "no pressure". If subsequent honing is necessary it should be very little. Besides its just one mans opinion.

Agreed - Kees' and Sham's methods would remove the wire edge quite well without damaging the razor if as they recommended light pressure is used. Sham's method is similar to the old-time way of very lightly drawing the edge along a piece of soft wood, such as a match stick.

Cheers,
Jeff

Very true about prior damage. If it's a wedge or a hollow you have to repair the damage first but with a wedge it takes a lot longer since as has been said a lot more metal has to be removed. That and I think more people make errors on a wedge than a hollow.
Speaking for myself I like them so much it's worth the time and effort to get a good edge by taking sometimes hours to get them back to workable condition.

Kees I was talking about how much tape you use.

Originally Posted by Lynn

For the most part, other than Timors and Fromms, I say rack 'em up........

Lynn

I can vouch for the PITA qualities of Fromms!

I just did a little reading on Timor razors in the SRP archives and it appears they have something in common with the new Fromms: they both seem to sharpen better with a higher angle than provided by their spines. In any event I've found that to be true of my particular Fromm razor. I wonder if that's true in general with those two brands? Perhaps they have the same manufacturer?

Jeff

Originally Posted by Kees

That destroys the edge! If you have an overhoned edge and strop it lightly on leather spine lifted 2-3 mm and then strop it as you always do your razor is shave-sharp! The way you propose necessitaties honing the edge again starting wit ha low grit hone.

i have done that method more then 2 years. at first yes please no pressure at all.
Second you can go to back hones to 8k or higher ones (no lower ones please)or you can use simple dovo red paste or chro2 which will take a little more laps then red paste.
it has been worked always for me . Just try and check the edge under the microscope see what happens. gl
hope this helps

Originally Posted by JeffR

I can vouch for the PITA qualities of Fromms!

I just did a little reading on Timor razors in the SRP archives and it appears they have something in common with the new Fromms: they both seem to sharpen better with a higher angle than provided by their spines. In any event I've found that to be true of my particular Fromm razor. I wonder if that's true in general with those two brands? Perhaps they have the same manufacturer?

Jeff

Agree 100% but needs to be noted- new ones not old ones. Old ones are good.

Lynn one thing I never understood when I ran across an old wedge with as you said 6 spines. How in the world can that happen. I can't think of a way someone could do that???

Originally Posted by Gunner777

Lynn one thing I never understood when I ran across an old wedge with as you said 6 spines. How in the world can that happen. I can't think of a way someone could do that???

Hes probably referring to a blade that has been hammered out and is serpentine, if you look down on the spine it will be wiggly. PITA!