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    Bump for more 1k stone opinions...

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    I have a Cerax 1k/6k combi, too. This 1k was enough for me a few years,
    it did itīs job very well.

    I donīt think there are much alternatives to:
    Dmt 1.2k (extra strong cutting power, no need to lap)
    Naniwa Super 1k (nice feeling, nice power, but no deep scratches left)
    Naniwa Chocera 1k
    Shapton 1k
    (and one that hasnīt been mentioned: ) Norton 1k

    You could of course go the extra mile and purchase an Aoto 1-2k japanese natural hone

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    Wow!!! How much honing does it take to use up a Shapton?

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    Honestly, it was mainly the accidental crater that took most its surface and the rest was done with Crown PM turning chisels. Due to their shape, they wear most hones unevenly (which is why I went back to using the Scary Sharp Method) thus calling for more lapping of the stone and a shorter life.

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    I just got my Naniwa Chosera from Mark at http://www.chefknivestogo.com and WOW! I love this stone, GS are great stones but again WOW, there is a huge difference in the time you spend setting a bevel, and in the feed back that you get from this stone. It is the best 1k I've tried. Easily beats out GS, Norton, and King. BTW, Mark has the best price on these stones at $76.90 with free shipping and great service.

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    Told ya, Chosera is pretty much the best synthetic stone out there right now. You need to try the 3k one, its pretty much at the same level of finish as most 5k stones but the speed of 3k.

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    I just got my Naniwa Chosera from Mark at Global Knives,Wusthof Knives,Henckels Knives,Ceramic Knives,Kitchen Knives,Shun Knives,Steak Knives and WOW! I love this stone, GS are great stones but again WOW, there is a huge difference in the time you spend setting a bevel, and in the feed back that you get from this stone. It is the best 1k I've tried. Easily beats out GS, Norton, and King. BTW, Mark has the best price on these stones at $76.90 with free shipping and great service.

    Naniwa Chosera 1000 Grit Water Stone With Nagura
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    3k hmmm, I may have to get one soon. I'm thinking of just getting a whole set of Naniwas Chosera and leaving the GS for shop tools.

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    I like my Shapton GS 1k.

    But if I didnt have that I'd get a DMT 1200. Apparently they are very good for bevel setting..!

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    Well, I just happened to walk into Woodcraft Sunday night.

    I noticed they had the flat granite slab so I picked it up for lapping my karasu as it is a little big for the DMT to do a good job.

    Then I needed some waterproof sandpaper

    and a credit card DMT (for raising slurry)

    and they had a King 1000 waterstone for about $20.

    It has worked pretty nice since then. It has a much better feel than the DMT. Decent choice.

    I will probably upgrade from this in the future, but for now, it confirms for me that a waterstone seems to work better for me than the DMT.

    I think I see a Chocera 2K in my future. How is it for slurry production?
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    Just had a thought.

    I expect someone would want to know why I was thinking about adding a 2K to the 1K.

    There is some thought that when you are designing a progression you should focus on microns rather than grit. The idea would be to drop the micron size by 1/3 to 1/2 at each step. If I am not wrong 1K is about 15 micron and 2k is about 7 micron. So from Japan Tool suggests this then on to Aoto (which he estimates at 3-4K), medium finisher, final finisher.

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