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    3k hmmm, I may have to get one soon. I'm thinking of just getting a whole set of Naniwas Chosera and leaving the GS for shop tools.

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    If you can invest the money go for it, you know what Dave says about them,
    He by the way said that the 3k is good enough to skip on the 5k, he will give you more insight on that if you ask him
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    Yeah, I read his post over in KF a while ago. Everyone seems to be up in a frenzy about that 3k and I've been fighting the urge to justify another stone. The wife jokes that she should buy a stone (diamond) for every stone I purchase. :-)

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    Bringing this up again, I am looking for a lower grit hone to replace my DMT. I just don't like the feel.

    My requirements (in no particular order):

    natural stone feel

    relatively fast cutter

    not real deep scratches

    doesn't lap as hard as an Ark Translucent (which I have done)

    doesn't have to be lapped real often

    I am looking at the Chosera (1k-2K), Bester (1k-2K), Sigma Power, and Shapton. As I type, the Spyderco (medium or fine??) ceramic comes to
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    Get a coticule. It can be any 'grit' you want it to be! You just need the patience of a redwood tree...

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    Currently I am using a tiger coticule with slurry as a medium finisher.

    Kind of like using a race horse (maybe a quarter horse) as a pack mule. It will do it, but, even while it does, you can tell it was bred for better use.

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    just to muddy the waters further, I ran across an Arashiyama 1000 grit stone which I believe are a combination of abrasives from natural stones and artificial abrasives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyment View Post
    Bringing this up again, I am looking for a lower grit hone to replace my DMT. I just don't like the feel.

    My requirements (in no particular order):

    natural stone feel

    relatively fast cutter

    not real deep scratches

    doesn't lap as hard as an Ark Translucent (which I have done)

    doesn't have to be lapped real often

    I am looking at the Chosera (1k-2K), Bester (1k-2K), Sigma Power, and Shapton. As I type, the Spyderco (medium or fine??) ceramic comes to
    mind.
    That is a pretty good list of requirements. All but the last one is fairly easy. I do not like the feel of diamond plates much myself. But the OP sharpening lathe chisels may want to look into that- if I were sharpening HSS I would be using dplate.

    I am getting near the end of my Shapton pro 1k (it is my favorite of the pros.) So I'll be shopping soon, and a little tired of Shapton for awhile.
    With the chosera I fear it will be too soft- as this is one of their features. Personally I would never consider a spyderco as they are not really waterstones. I think in short order one would be glazed and lap like your TranArk. Bester-excellent rocks, but been there done that. I will probably be calling japan-tool asking for a couple Sigs to be loaded on the plane. They are supposed to be hard and fast and steels friendly. Perhaps closest to filling your requirement.

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    I like the King 1k
    Its faster and more suitable for very hard steels than my Henckels/Naniwa 1k.

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    I just bought an Ice Bear 1000 last week . I was at Woodcraft and it was time to have a synthetic 1K.

    I decided to buy the Chocera 2K from Chef Knives To Go. They are located here in Wisconsin. (When you have a good local business, you buy from them). It should be here Tuesday.

    I will compare them (to an extent), though I have read that the 2k is closer to the 3K than the 1K. On a micron basis it is. But it should give me an idea of how the inexpensive waterstone compares to the pricey one. I may not have the skill to really compare.

    I know I have a tendency to move to the higher grit stones too soon. So, I want to have some lower grit stones that might be more enjoyable.

    After 2K it will be just naturals. Aoto, medium finisher and fine finisher.

    So has an Asagi with some Habutae character to it for a fine finisher for me. We are still talking over the medium finisher.

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