Well to start with I'm still a newbie, so take what I have to type with a grain of salt. I bought new norton 1K/4K combo and an 8K right from the start. read all the great stuff here, watched all the viedo's etc. I was a machineist for 15 years in the past and thought this would come easy!WRONG! First I tried it one handed and ended up with a nice edge near the heel and not near the point. This was done on a new and very expensive dovo special edition. Then I tried useing my left middle two fingerpads very lightly about midway down the blade right in the belly of the hollow part. Well for me, at least I got the edge even down the whole blade after going back to the 1K to set the bevel and on to the pyramids on the 4K/8K. This worked good for me, but I wasted a little steel off a good blade. I then ordered another new (but not so expensive) Dovo that had been honed by lynn. It was sweet right out of the box, he does it with one hand. So what I have learned is, I have a lot to learn. Darn it! Good luck and best wishes, Ron