Thread: honing pyramid for naniwas

does anyone have a good honing pyramid for the fast cutting naniws after the bevel is set with 1000. just dont want to over hone, still a noob with a set of stones. thanks

I use the same pyramid recommended for the Nortons that is in the SRP Wiki, Lynn's method here . You could also do the alternative pyramid here in the Wiki if you want to do less strokes.

After setting the bevel on the 1k I have been doing a pyramid with the 3k/5k and polishing on the 8k. You could also do the 5k/8k and polish on the 10 or the 12k. Just experiment and see what works best for you.

Hi,

+1 on Jimmys' recommendations.

I am very much a honing newbie, but have got very goods results with the Naniwa 3/5 pyramid, followed by Naniwa 8k & 10 k.

Best regards

Russ

When Lynn showed me a method to use the Naniwa's, he didn't show me a pyramid. We started with the 1k, then to the 3k, then I think 5k, 8k, and 12k. On the 1k, we did 40 circles on each side with a firm stroke and then 10 nomrmal strokes. This was repeated until the bevel was set. On the 3k, we did 40 circles with a firm stroke and then 10 normal strokes. On the next ones (I think 5k then 8k), 40 light circles and 10 light strokes. On the 12k, 10 light strokes. Then 10 light strokes on felt charged with .5 micron diamond. Any set can be repeated if you're not happy with where the edge is, but I don't think I ever had to repeat once I got the hang of the firmness on the lower end.

EDIT: 8K might have been just 10 regular strokes, like on the 12k; to be honest, I don't remember.

Personally, I don't like pyramiding, because in my mind, one should go as far as a given hone can take you before moving on. For that reason, I like the circles and passes method described above. Oh yea, and this method worked, too. Very well.

Thanks Holli4, I'll have to try that. I've used the circles on the 1k for bevel setting but not further on up the grit ladder.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Thanks Holli4

Don't thank me, thank Lynn. It's the method he shared with me at the WNY meet.

Originally Posted by holli4pirating

Don't thank me, thank Lynn. It's the method he shared with me at the WNY meet.

Hey, I'll thank whoever I want to thank ! Thanks again ... and one for Lynn too. I'm feisty today.

So when you talk about polishing, like, for example, on my 12k Naniwa, what does that involve?

For example, does one just do so many laps? Or perhaps do you to the pyramid thing again, only swapping out the lowest grit stone. For instance, pyramid on my 5k and 8k stones, then pyramid again using the 8k and 12k...

Thanks.

Originally Posted by BrentonC

So when you talk about polishing, like, for example, on my 12k Naniwa, what does that involve?

For example, does one just do so many laps? Or perhaps do you to the pyramid thing again, only swapping out the lowest grit stone. For instance, pyramid on my 5k and 8k stones, then pyramid again using the 8k and 12k...

Thanks.

from what i understand after the 5k 8k pyramid , then you just polish 10-15 x-strokes on the 12k only. then strop 50 linen 50 leather.

I do not think one can overhone a razor.
apart from that a standard pyramid
25-25
20-20
15-15
10-10
1-3
1-5
works fine.
I find it more effective to do
20 circles followed by 10 X strokes then 20 circles on grits from 1k up to 8k.
on the 8k theen I follow with 10-15 very light strokes.
same for 10k and 16k(that is a Glass Stone but it does not matter)