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11-23-2005, 03:00 PM #1
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Thanked: 0The Proof of the Sharpening is in the Shaving
Hello str8 razor friends,
May I entertain doubts whether such mathermatical approaches lead to significantly better results?
My feeling is that becoming one with the materials during honing and stropping yield better shaves and much more pleasant experiences, provided one uses basically correct techniques.
Best regards,
lux
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11-23-2005, 03:47 PM #2220-221 Whatever it takes.........
RT
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11-24-2005, 01:54 AM #3
I'm not going to get anywhere with this thread am I? LOL
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11-24-2005, 02:09 AM #4
If your trying to quantify the honing process, good luck. The pyramid scheme is really a struggling attempt to try and do just that and its a convenient starting point. In reality each razor is an individual and each one takes a different degree of honing to do the job. Even new out of the box razors all require different approaches. I had two sequentially numbered SRP TI razors and out of the box they each required radically different honing schemes to get shave ready.
Its all a matter of experience and feel.No matter how many men you kill you can't kill your successor-Emperor Nero
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11-24-2005, 03:26 AM #5
Just thinking about it hurts my head.
I know what you mean, but there are too many factors. Any hone will remove more of a rough surface than that of a smooth, but all smoother hones remove less than rougher hones. Rough honers will remove more of any surface than others. The quality of each razor as mentioned.
I think in order to answer those questions we need to ask first what makes the pyramid work.
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11-24-2005, 05:52 AM #6
What about beard types affecting honing?
From the "Straight Razor History & Details" PDF on this site, p 10.
2.02 About The Razor's Edge And The Art Of Honing
The most difficult edge to create is that of the lancet, but that of the razor is also not easy to care for.
For example, it suffices when a lancet is good and well sharpened to perform well at all type of
operations, but a razor that works well with a heavy beard may not be effective for a normal one vv.
Excellent razors exist that work well with both types, but this is not more than a compromise resulting
from keeping the middle between a strong and a fine edge. It is the honing technique that makes an
edge perfect for a specific type of beard. A relatively coarse and strong edge makes the hair fold instead
of being cut; a too fine edge 'brakes off' or bends at thick hairs. Inappropriate edges cause hairs to be
torn instead of being cut. So, one needs a fine edge for soft beards, and a coarser one for heavy beards.
This makes sense so shouldn't talk about honing technique mention the beard type for which it worked best?
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11-24-2005, 06:06 AM #7
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Thanked: 0Hi Vladimir,
interesting find - I've never looked at the sharpening stuff this way
This btw. also explains why some people are perfectly happy with a not-so-sharp razor while others only will accept the finest and sharpest edges as comfortable shavers.
As fate will have it, I am happy to get my razors sharp enough for comfortable shaving at all - so these niceties will be something I can try my hands on sometime in future
So in this regard I am most curious to see what our fellow old-timers and pro's here will get out of this ...
-Axel-