Thread: Issues with kitayama 12k

Originally Posted by Pyment

The slurry debate rears its head.

I will say that my edges do seem sharper off my J-nats with slurry but only if I do a real good job at lower grits between 1K and about 6K. If I have moved on too soon, it never seems to get where it should be.

What you are saying is 100% correct.
The problem is you don't know or don't want to know what is the real problem.
i have always said there is 95% people doesn't know how to use their final finishing stones.
Above is excellent example.
if you move in to soon , it never seems to get where it should be?
Actually
it will if you are planning to spend hours to get what you want. I assume you don't have enough patience and you get tired after 1 hour spending time with jnates in this case.

In reality you should spend less then -2-3 minutes in any final finishing stone.
what happens when you do correct job on lower grit stones in your case 6k level Jnates do their job( i really do think you are making more then necessary strokes on it).
In fact you need to move to jnates at least after 8k and better result (at short time spend ) you will get if you move to it after 16k.
hope i am clear.
(i didn't mean to sound rude this is just best words i can use)
hope this helps.

Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

In reality you should spend less then -2-3 minutes in any final finishing stone.
what happens when you do correct job on lower grit stones in your case 6k level Jnates do their job( i really do think you are making more then necessary strokes on it).
In fact you need to move to jnates at least after 8k and better result (at short time spend ) you will get if you move to it after 16k.
hope i am clear.
(i didn't mean to sound rude this is just best words i can use)
hope this helps.

I spend more time on the J-nats partially because I just enjoy the feel (sicko that I am). Yes I know I am making more strokes on it than I should, but I like it.

The other reason is that I don't have an intermediate stone I enjoy as much (it is too tempting to move on). Thus, I am talking to So about getting a great intermediate stone to take me from the aoto (2-3K) to the my finishing stones.

Last I heard, he was looking at a Maruichi Maruka Nakayama Tomae, an Oohira Suita, or an Okudo suita (he decided to keep the first one he showed me) that was a little less fine than the ones he has pictured on his site (those are too fine for an intermediate stone).