Thread: Honing problem.

I have another honing problem. It's a carbon steel 6/8 hollow ground ERN -WALD nº 41. In my naniwa SS 800 I can't set a bevel on this one because before the bevel is right it gets overhoned as strange as that may seem. It's like: it's dull and do 2 or 3 more laps and bam-> overhoned . I do have some shallow pitting near the edge, could that be the issue here? Or some of you with experience in honing ERN razors has any idea of what is going on? I would appreciate your thoughts because I'm totally lost on this one .
Maybe you can tell me your honing progression for ERN razors.

Try moving up to a higher grit.

As said above try higher grit stone.
Do you have means to look at the edge, a loupe a scope?
Taking a look at the bevel sometimes can be very helpful to determine what a problem might be.
How many laps are you doing on your stone?

Originally Posted by mainaman

As said above try higher grit stone.
Do you have means to look at the edge, a loupe a scope?
Taking a look at the bevel sometimes can be very helpful to determine what a problem might be.
How many laps are you doing on your stone?

I'm making between 20 and 30 laps. I do have a microscope, but usually don't get much info from it, I prefer the tpt. I'll try a higher grit and see what happens.

Originally Posted by yoshida

I have another honing problem. It's a carbon steel 6/8 hollow ground ERN -WALD nº 41. In my naniwa SS 800 I can't set a bevel on this one because before the bevel is right it gets overhoned as strange as that may seem.

What makes you think the blade is overhoned ? My understanding of the term "overhoned" describes a wire edge condition , which would not exist until after the bevel is set . If you are getting a wire edge , "back-honing" 1 or 2 strokes should remove it .

Originally Posted by yoshida

I'm making between 20 and 30 laps. I do have a microscope, but usually don't get much info from it, I prefer the tpt. I'll try a higher grit and see what happens.

what do you see when you look at the bevel under your scope?
does it look clean or is there pitting on the bevel too?
Does the whole edge lose sharpness or only certain parts?

Originally Posted by mainaman

what do you see when you look at the bevel under your scope?
does it look clean or is there pitting on the bevel too?
Does the whole edge lose sharpness or only certain parts?

It looks clean, pitting only above the bevel, the whole edge loses sharpness.

Originally Posted by dave5225

What makes you think the blade is overhoned ? My understanding of the term "overhoned" describes a wire edge condition , which would not exist until after the bevel is set . If you are getting a wire edge , "back-honing" 1 or 2 strokes should remove it .

When I do the tpt the blade does not feel like cutting, like entering in the thumbprint ridges it just feels soft, too thin, the thin bends and does not cut hair, not even over the skin. Usually, in another razor when I perform the tpt it feels like getting in/cutting from the sawtooth like edge and if the bevel is ok it cut's arm hair easily.

Check out this video of Lynn honing at a recent get together and follow his procedure shown in the video here. Start at your 1k naniwa.

Originally Posted by yoshida

When I do the tpt the blade does not feel like cutting, like entering in the thumbprint ridges it just feels soft, too thin, the thin bends and does not cut hair, not even over the skin. Usually, in another razor when I perform the tpt it feels like getting in/cutting from the sawtooth like edge and if the bevel is ok it cut's arm hair easily.

Hmmm , I wonder if the blade may have been overheated from grinding or buffing .