Thread: rolling x stroke on this one?

Why is the rolling X IS the answer to this blade?
Can any of you explain your position on this?
i would say straight x will do better work or half moon motion.
In fact if this blade has even back hone wear(a little more toward to tip i can see that) by doing rolling x you will make more mistakes then not doing rolling x?

Please let your opinion go.
thank you

Well, I think it would need a rolling X because I don't know any other way to get the whole edge to contact the hone. Perhaps there are other ways, as I'm not familiar with the "half moon," but the rolling X is what I would do.

That is one of those you have to have in hand and put the marker on and try it. Speculation looking at photos might be close but it ain't horseshoes or hand grenades so no point getting into debate over it IMHO.

I know Lynn favors the 45 degree heel leading stroke on wedges and smiling blades. IME that or the rolling x seems to work. Taking another look at the blade the dark spots towards the point don't look good. I wonder if those are chips or corrosion. Hope if it is the latter that there isn't deep pitting in there.

yeah, it's hard to tell from the pictures, but it looks like pitting to me... I'd suspect a bit of swiss cheese steel on the edge. you may need to hone a good bit off of that blade

Jimmy i would be agree 100% with heel forward or 45 degree strokes.
i am against the rolling x and let me explain why.
Person need to use Rolling x most likely if blade do have warped places. In this situation you are unable to do straight x strokes or heel forward or 45 degree strokes.
if this blade warped i would never say Rolling x wasn't the answer.
Now about Rolling x strokes.
I don't think it is for everyone.
When you do rolling x you have to use same pressure all way from heel to the tip of the blade .+ you must have exact amount(number of circles) rolling motion from heel to the tip.+ you must to do same things another side of the blade.
if you miss any of those you will end up sharpening some part of blade more then other.
and that will be a problem to fix
This is why i am against Rolling x motion in any blade except warped ones.
hope this helps.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Taking another look at the blade the dark spots towards the point don't look good. I wonder if those are chips or corrosion. Hope if it is the latter that there isn't deep pitting in there.

The blade finished it's tumble last night and has been rescaled. I will post a picture of it tonight.

Goog

The rust was primarily on the surface. You can see some pitting on the toe, by the spine that I left, to preserve the etching. Otherwise, the edge looks good. Right now, it's a butter knife, though.

Goog

Nice razor. If you're not confident in your ability honing maybe either send it out or put it away until you've gotten some practice on full hollows with less of a smile. Or, OTOH, if you feel like the challenge, have at it and just take your time and best of luck.

Looks like it cleaned up nicely

If you want a hand with the honing, let me know and next time I'm down your way we can get together again. I should have my new ebay special by then, as well as my new coticule