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03-24-2006, 03:45 AM #1
Artificial Nagura Stone?
I just got my Norton 4K/8K in the mail today, and everything I've read says you need to work up a slurry on the surface of the 8K for it to work as it's supposed to, and to leave the slurry to dry on the stone afterwards. Is there a readily available substitute for the Nagura stone, or do I need to just break down and get the Nagura? I also have a Belgian coticule. Can the same stone used on the 8K waterstone be used to make a slurry on the coticule? I guess I was thinking of something like the small pumice stones you can buy at Wally World for a buck.
Last edited by Joe Chandler; 03-24-2006 at 03:50 AM.
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03-24-2006, 03:56 AM #2
You don't need to work up anything on that stone. Just soak the 4k grit for 10 or 15 minutes and go to it. Works great with just the water.
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03-24-2006, 03:58 AM #3
Obviously, you have to soak both at the same time. Do you leave the slurry on yours after honing, and how often do you clean it?
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03-24-2006, 04:01 AM #4
I just put a little water in the bottom of the blue plastic holder and let the 4k rest in it, then just flip it and go. When I flip back over to the 8k, it's wet enough to use. Easy peasy.
To clean off the metal swag after use I use a little soap and an old toothbrush.
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03-24-2006, 04:20 AM #5
I got a plastic juice container and store my Norton in Water with a little bleach then it is always ready.
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03-24-2006, 10:09 AM #6Originally Posted by xman
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03-25-2006, 11:24 PM #7
No nogura on the Norton. Just soak it and use it. You can either store it in water or soak it before using it. I soak mine 15 minutes before using. There are certain hones that work better with a nogura. My 12K Kitayama came with one and if you use it for knives the nogura is the way to go for razors its a toss up. it works good either way.
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03-26-2006, 10:02 PM #8
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Thanked: 2209I only use a nagura on the 4000 and then only when I am removing nicks from the edge. I have also used my Chinese 12000 to generate the slurry. I have tried softer stones like classic barber hones but they leave grit embedded in the 4000.
I have not yet tried a Hard Arkansas stone but I think that would woork just fine( just as the Chinese 12000 does).
I always rinse off the slurry after the nick is gone and thereafter use just the plain 4000 and 8000. I never use slurry with the 8000.
The advantage of the nagura is that the abrasive grains break down very rapidly. I am not sure but I think the nagura is a form of slate without silica. American slate has a high silica content.Randolph Tuttle, a SRP Mentor for residents of Minnesota & western Wisconsin
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03-26-2006, 10:47 PM #9
I use the Nagura on the Norton and the Japanese waterstone.I just let it dry after and wash it off ever third or fourth session,if I am doing six or eight razors I will usually do about 3 razors or so then wash them and recharge.The slurry gives a good indication if you are keeping the razor flat and applying a uniform stroke.I think I get a much better edge using the slurry.You can get the Nagura stones from The Japanese Woodworker ,they are pretty cheap for a handfull.When I use a fine barbers hone I use Smiths water soluable honing oil and water.I guess I do all this old fashioned stuff,because it was drummed into us when I was learning to hone and polish in the tool and die business Best Regards to All: Gary