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Thread: Finishing with Thuringian
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06-13-2010, 11:01 AM #1
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Thanked: 1072Finishing with Thuringian
I have what I believe is a Thuringian, you can see it here http://straightrazorpalace.com/hones...-i-d-hone.html. I normally finish with a coti and, having no experience with a hone like this I just wanted some opinions on how many laps to do when finishing with a Thuringian. Of coarse I know there is no magic number you can give me to answer this question but I'm talking ballpark, e.g. 10-20 laps or 150-200 laps? thanks
Grant"I aint like that no more...my wife, she cured me of drinking and wickedness"
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06-13-2010, 12:41 PM #2
I'm pretty new to this, but the process I've been using is to generate a fairly thick slurry, and make about 50 passes, and then start diluting the slurry every 20 or so laps, until I'm left with plain water. Then I rinse the hone and blade and finish with about another 50 laps under running water.
I've gotten edges I could probably shave with, but I never stop there; I finish my progression on Nani12K and SpydeeUF.
Good luck with your new hone, it's a monster!
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06-13-2010, 12:43 PM #3
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Thanked: 2591you need to test the stone for your self.
Standard count for Thuringian if I am not wrong is 50 laps. The stone also can cut differently with and without slurry.Stefan
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06-13-2010, 01:09 PM #4
I've never seen a thuri like that and I own about 6 of them... hmm.
if it is, I use a slurry and then dilute to water for smoothness.
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06-13-2010, 02:11 PM #5
I also do a light slurry and dilute. OTOH, Lynn doesn't do slurry when finishing with an Escher so it is a matter of preference. What I've been doing lately is 10 round trips and a TPT. Keep going until I feel it is "there". The number of laps varies of course. If you keep using the TPT your thumb will become educated and you won't suffer as much from razor mange on your arms and legs.
Your stone is dark like some Thuringans but as previously mentioned it looks thicker than most I've seen or have. Eschers and Hohenzollerns I've got are all in the neighborhood of 3/4" thick. Whatever it is, as my grandma used to say, handsome is, as handsome does, so if it is a good hone it makes no difference.Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.
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06-13-2010, 02:46 PM #6
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Thanked: 286if your final hone is coticule you must be shave ready of the coticule,so i would test shave of coticule. if its all good the max you should need is 60 laps more should'nt do any damge. i'm fairly new to eschers thurys. this is what i have found on my last escher not my recent one. i found finishing on water only was smoother , finishing on slurry only was a little crispier. so as above mentioned i don't think you can go wrong slurry then down to clean water. i need to try out the differances my self a little more. slurry will cut a little quiker thats the idea water will be less agressive and leave nicer edge.
i no sham shaves of slurry only and swears by it. evry ones experiance will be differant.
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06-13-2010, 03:34 PM #7
I decided they were to precious to keep turning into slurry!
I use them with just water. My method is to wet the hone & keep doing laps till the hone is dry. After that, around ten more on the dry hone. My touch is incredibly delicate, particularly for the laps on the dry hone.
Give it a try.
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06-13-2010, 03:41 PM #8
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Thanked: 286may be presciuos, but i have to say honing on slurry is absalutley great the feed back and control is real good. my new escher is real prescious.
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06-13-2010, 03:47 PM #9
Each to his own. Don't get me wrong, I do rate the Thuringians ability with slurry. I just found I can get the edge up there far faster with other hones, then finish off very nicely with the method I mention.
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06-13-2010, 04:52 PM #10
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Thanked: 13245My 2 cents:
On naturals,
I don't go to a finisher to "finish honing" I am done honing before I go to a Natural finisher...
Most natural finishers are self-limiting they only allow so much "Sharp" then the stone starts to throw up road blocks, Coticule and Thuringens (Eschers included) even the Ch12k the biggest road block they use is the slurry produced from honing on them...
I use a bit of slurry to "train" the razor to the hone, (maybe 10 laps) then go to clear water, dipping the razor every 3 laps to allow no slurry to build up, if you really want to learn what's going on off the stone, then shave off the stone, no stropping at all... you can learn very, very, quickly how that stone really feels...
ps: Before someone chimes in, yes some Japanese naturals don't play by these rules.. and I have only just recently really started playing with many of the naturals other than the Coticule and Ch12k those I have had for quite some time...
Again just my 2 cents, YMMV, in fact, quite a bit on natural stones, one thing I did learn going though and testing 4 different Ch12k stones, is that naturals need to be learned, they have different character from stone to stone...